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Comment by nottorp | Hacker News Reader

> Since I want GitHub to face competition I have thoughts.

Github allows private repos, organization access control etc. I don't see how Codeberg is competition.

Codeberg was competition for the EU, in the topic of tech-sovereignty which is a incredibly hot topic in the EU. With the US abusing it's position not only recently but years past, the EU is accelerating funding and plans to decouple from anything the US can mess with legally. Much of that sentiment has been spreading all over the EU governments and software communities.

GitHub for all its purposes remains a platform hostile to EU interests long term.

I don't think they were saying that there aren't reasons to not use github, in or out of the USA, but rather that codeberg was already not a contender for many use cases due to their existing rules restricting private/non-OSS repos.

It's apples to oranges. No matter how many reasons one has to avoid github, Codeberg is only an alternative for open source hosting.

Are there any alternatives that you could use for closed source development that aren't owned by US entities?

Self hosted Forgejo

Self hosted gitlab etc.

What if you can't be bothered and would rather pay a symbolic subscription, like what github offers?

Be the change you want to see. Nobody is doing that outside the US because they can't get business away from GitHub, apparently.

And of course when they do try they have nothing like github's $7/month (now $4) base subscription. They want 19.99 per user per month.

And then they wonder why they go bankrupt like those dignified German car manufacturers. It's because people can't afford them.

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