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But can you trust any number or metric coming out of SpaceX given everything? Also you mean their own compute like the illegal data centre turbines?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/15/elon-musk...

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"everythin you don't like" is not a scientific argument, neither is the illegality of data centers on AI quality

So you’re asserting that the ends justify the means or?

I’m confused by how your reply makes sense in the context of the parent comment. They weren’t stating a preference, they were linking to simple facts.

Please do better.

> So you’re asserting that the ends justify the means or?

They claim that spacex has competitive advantage. They take no stance on condoning spacex’s behavior. Personally I strongly dislike musks behavior, but I appreciate discussion of competitive advantages/disadvantages, independent of moral views. I liked the thread, it adds new info to the conversation.

> So you’re asserting that the ends justify the means or?

No, they're not. You're making up things and pretending that they said them.

> Please do better.

You're badly breaking the HN guidelines. Please review them: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

As are you! Your comment was snarky and mean. Clear violations.

> As are you! Your comment was snarky and mean. Clear violations.

This is factually incorrect. I did not say anything "snarky" or "mean". I stated facts and pointed out that the poster was breaking the guidelines.

Anthropic rent the same data centre with the turbines from X btw

Wait until they find out what's in a powerplant!

Now do Anthropic's copyright fines.

Now find someone who cares about or respects copyright law.

Crazy that posters here don't know the difference between a "fine," a "judgment," and a voluntary settlement. Anthropic didn't even train on the pirated libraries, they said. Still, they made copies. Probably the biggest legal blunder I've seen given the size of the settlement. Alas, it's not a fine.

do you have any idea how much clickbait gets circulated because... Musk gets clicks? Just try it for yourself. Grok 4.6 is great (first impression)

being a public company forces a lot of trust and transparency bc otherwise shareholders will sue you into oblivion

True story, for example take Tesla's promise of self driving which was delivered back in 2015.

SpaceX is run by an absolute ghoul who managed to get away with securities fraud ("funding secured"), what makes you think there's any accountability left in public markets?

From Matt Levine's description, SpaceX has a governance model that explicitly makes it resistant to shareholder lawsuits. It's not a Delaware corporation.

It might or might not work long-term, but I wouldn't count on courts to help.

Corporations are legally required to maximize shareholder's value. If reaching that goal requires them to pretend to be transparent, or fudge the numbers that they show to the public, then that's what you can expect them to do.

> Corporations are legally required to maximize shareholder's value.

This is a myth.

Because it works and they don’t charge a lot for it

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