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I think there is a huge shift in hackernews as of late (as other mainstream media as well) where such discussions happen, not necessary encouraged.

I'm shocked to see the difference between 2023 and today.

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Mods will almost always turn off flagging for stories if you email them. I think it's too easy to flag something to death and not enough people know they can just email the mods

Gog and Magog won't create themselves out of thin air.

A discourse must be cultivated and steered till the point when they are ready to form.

Ah yes, Yahweh the loving and compassionate god is just cultivating a discourse like the good old days in Psalm 137:9.

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