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And I hope nobody is claiming that mainstream journalism has any accountability

I do.

I’m open to being convinced, but if you’re claiming mainstream media has no accountability, I think you need to substantiate that.

I realize there are information bubbles on the internet where this is accepted as truth, but unexamined. Nonsense is everywhere on the internet. I’d be curious how you’d substantiate this.

You can just watch or read the mainstream news for a few days and see for yourself, really. They may not outright lie that much, but they constantly lie by omission - all of them. And when they are called out, it's like screaming into the void since they just ignore it and carry on their merry way. Hence, very little if any accountability, and usually because the people that rely on these sources aren't the ones calling them out, and so refuse to believe they were lied to since it challenges what they think they know.

> You can just watch or read the mainstream news for a few days and see for yourself, really.

I read mainstream news, but I don't know what you're referring to.

It's not like they are perfect, but I do see accountability when they screw up.

i'm guessing that by your definition almost nothing has any accountability

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