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Six Chinese AI firms accused of aggressively copying US frontier models

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Every US frontier lab trained on the entire internet without asking or attributing Reddit, books, GitHub, Wikipedia and they called it fair use. OpenAI, Anthropic, Google all did this. They unethically ingested the output of every human who ever typed into a browser, paid nobody (oh did I forget about art and art styles being stolen as well without attribution?) and built trillion dollar companies.

But Now it's "industrial-scale theft" requiring a joint NSA/FBI/CISA advisory.

The hypocrisy. Whatever we do is fair use. Whatever you do is a federal case.

Chinese AI firms in my opinion are much better, DeepSeek publishes weights, Qwen publishes weights, GLM is a godsend (imho). You can download them, audit them, run them locally all while paying lesser than American AI. The "shady" companies are the transparent ones. The "responsible" American companies are the ones suing to keep their models closed while selling access to the NSA

Right now, hypocrisy is the American way. There is nowhere on the planet respected less.

I feel much the same way. Actions speak louder than words, and when was the last time that OpenAI published open weight LLMs? Anthropic?

Though credit where its due, Google did release open-weight AI models like Gemma but still hides its flagships hidden. The closest we got to open weights was during the Anthropic hack few months ago.

Given this week's alarmist assertions by Antropic's Evan Hubinger, seconded by other high-ups in the AI industry, I am with Gary Marcus in calling for a boycott of OpenAI and Anthropic until they sort their acts out.

Towards the end of his piece yesterday, "The Case for Boycotting Generative AI" [0], Marcus also backs calls for co-operation with China, rather than antagonism and bickering. After all, tackling a claimed existential threat should take precedence over any other considerations. This seems reasonable to me.

[0] https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/the-case-for-boycotting-ge...

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