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>you can't actually make money in China doing China things

Do you do business in China?

I'm curious what you mean by this? Because in my experience, you can only do business in China by doing "China" things.

I'd be interested in picking your brain as to how you get around those issues?

I don't do business in PRC anymore, haven't for an amount of time that means I don't know anything anymore, basically.

I'm talking like, getting 100x, VC sized returns. Of course you can sell widgets in China, it's a major world economy.