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Have you attempted some of the "swift" variants of 3.8? I've heard they're super good in terms of toning down thinking without affecting performance

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The only swift variant I'm aware of is from ukisai, which uses the swift open license, and is NOT open for commercial use for businesses over $1mil. I'm respecting their choice by not using it for work, which means I'm also not using it for my personal projects in case I forget to switch models when I switch projects.

My day job doesn't have a dedicated enterprise contract with any of the ai vendors so I might trial it to see if it is worth promoting at the company. Part of me is still holding out hope that qwen 4 dials back the overthinking on its own.

> The only swift variant I'm aware of is from ukisai, which uses the swift open license,

Ah, I overlooked that, since I have a claude sub at work and all my explorations are purely personal. There's another fast version of 3.8: ThinkingCap[1] by bottlecapai but they have the same $1M restriction from what I can see since it's distributed under a PolyForm Small Business 1.0.0 + BottleCap personal-use grant.

[1]: https://huggingface.co/bottlecapai/ThinkingCap-Qwen3.8-27B

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