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I like the November Singularity, I hope that catches on. That was definitely the point where I went from "AI is overhyped" to "oh shit the hype bros may be on to something"

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Yes, good name and I also feel that was a major inflection point. Up until then I found all AI models to be terrible at programming, with the difference between GPT o3, Sonnet 4 and every other model since GPT-3 being just the exact flavor of terrible they were.

November 2025, with Opus 4.5, was the first time I was impressed by an LLM doing something non-trivial with a reasonably good level of quality.

Yes, and Qwen 3.8 27b is a similar inflection point for local, although I wouldn't claim it's quite as good as Opus 4.5 it is genuinely useful. Whether that actually matters will depend on whether it ever becomes the most cost-effective tool for the job, but it's impressive as all heck

Yeah before Qwen 3.8 27b all local LLMs did feel like not very smart chat completion models. You would hit the limits of their intelligence all the time. Chatting with Qwen 3.8 is night and day, and it can do some pretty damn good coding and agentic work for its size. IMO its better than where frontier labs were at about 18 months ago, which is mind-blowing for a small locally hosted model.

Looks like someone coined it almost immediately! https://agi.co.uk/november-singularity-ai-agentic-era/

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