> The evidence it came from the Wuhan lab is overwhelmingly strong to the extent that anyone who believes otherwise should be suspected of motivated reasoning.
the irony
I only bothered citing evidence relevant to your claim:
> almost nobody who understands the science and how viruses spread gives more credence to the lab leak theory
... which isn't true. Some of the people who pointed out early on that there was a coverup were molecular biologists (e.g. Alina Chan), virologists themselves admitted right up front it probably came from the lab despite their massive incentive to not conclude that, and it is obvious to anyone regardless of background that a novel coronavirus appearing literally right next to the only lab in the world doing GoF research on coronaviruses is not likely to be a coincidence.
The wet market was a distraction in the end caused by ascertainment bias. Most cases, once the data was fully collected, appeared along the length of a railway line with Wuhan Airport at one end and the WiV at the other.
But I have weary experience of this debate on Hacker News. Before anyone goes further with you, please confirm you do not yourself get grant money to do scientific research, nor have you in the past? Because way too many times over the years when this topic has come up the people most dismissive of the obvious facts about COVID have turned out to be epidemiologists, public health workers, virologists and so on - people with incentives to mislead the public about this topic and who have done so repeatedly. Fauci being a case in point, where there is abundant proof that he misled the public.
You can't see that this is perfectly in line with conspiratorial thinking? You think everyone who has disagreed with you are essentially "paid shills"?
I'm good. I can see this is not going to be productive.
And for the last time, the existence of conspiracies in this case has been proven. We know guys like Fauci deliberately misled the public because he has admitted it in writing several times. And there were many other cases too.
Yea I know you think everyone is a paid shill. Very rational, very reasonable.
> And for the last time, the existence of conspiracies in this case has been proven.
nope. Conspiracy theorists were wrong about essentially every single thing during the pandemic (as they are with almost everything).
> We know guys like Fauci deliberately misled the public because he has admitted it in writing several times.
writing in a diary at a time when information was still very much coming in and nobody really knew what was the most likely source is not a conspiracy, but keep digging!