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> Do you think consciousness is "woo", or, scientifically unknowable? If yes, then great. We've admitted it's unknowable.

Unknowable does not imply "woo". The actual extent of the universe, beyond the observable one, is scientifically unknowable; But it's not "woo", is it?

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Its easy to say "I think physical systems can be conscious and physically allowable by universe, but current ones don't qualify." it is equivalent to saying "Yes, humans do not have magic in them and as far as I know are physical systems explainable by current or future physical laws" because humans well exist and are a physical system. Given how muddled the topic of consciousness is, a basic disclaimer or declaration like that should help.

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