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We’re talking about far-left (in this case) radicalization that needs to be stamped out, and which directly feeds the reactionary right.

I don’t give a shit about their cause. They lost me and anyone else that’s moderately sane when they firebombed someone’s home.

You should research the violent political environment of the Weimar Republic and how it directly paved the road for the NSDAP’s ascension to power.

The solution to violent radicalization is to shut it down, not to normalize political violence that undermines law and democracy.

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It sort of sounds like you believe that most of the advocates for a shutdown of AI research are on the far left. They're not.

Far left radicalization is necessary to counteract right wing radicalization that directly caused it. The right wing radicalized first and right wing millionaires put a lot of money into supporting that radicalization.

Left wing is just starting to react.

I'm going to play devils advocate here.

Wouldn't the Trump right say they were a counter reaction to the radicalisation of the establishment left? Saying men are women, racial hiring quotas, record levels of immigration while respectable low to middle income manufacturing jobs offshored to China, the gleeful forcasting of America's "founding population/dominant culture" becoming a minority.

The reactionary right needs no more feeding, its belly is already full.

I studied history in a state that used to be part of the Nazi empire. I know how they rose to power. The key factor was von Papen, a weak conservative who enabled them, vaguely the equivalent of establishment Republicans today.

I can also tell you that the pre-Weimar warnings ring a bit hollow when we already have some post-Weimar circumstances, like far-right paramilitaries patrolling cities and shooting dissenters.

Political Violence has already undermined law and democracy. Right now, ICE goons are brutalizing a Latino family somewhere. Right now, a war with no democratic backing rages on - a war that has already seen a school bombed.

Why is it that one dude bombing a CEO's house is worthy of so much more condemnation than the above? That, to me, feels like a more interesting question to answer, because of what it says about the ruling ideology and how it's normalized its own violence.

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