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More concretely DwarfStar M5 128GB Deepseek 4.1 flash 1K tokens @ 29s, 5K tokens + reasoning @ 147s, 10k token prompt @ 463 tokens/s = 22s. Hardware buy-in USD$7K / AUD$8.5K / EUR€6.8K. At typical workloads, ROI is still poor vs. current-era subsidies, but owning hardware is good for privacy/longevity/connectivity independence. Whether you actually consider Apple hardware 'owned' is a valid and thought provoking question.

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Still gonna take 2-3 years to get DeepSeek V4.1 Flash quality at decent speeds on reasonably priced hardware.

Hardware update cycles are 2-3 years even on the high end, so it's still a ways away before "good enough" and "local" belong in the same sentence for the average person.

And by then, DeepSeek V6 Flash will be too cheap to meter, 5x faster, and 10x better, so... You'd still need to go out of your way.

Most people are spending most of their time on their phones anyway. ..

In the words of a Scottish comedian, "The average person is Chinese." https://youtu.be/LsEhNMy8svo?t=98

Flash Next is a basically there. It really depends on what you are doing. This model is great. People forget that they felt Opus 4.6 was a great model and now you have it at home.

DS 4.1 flash is much much better than Opus 4.6, even quantized.

I do use DS 4.1 flash a good bit. It's only real fault is that it is a very eager model and I have to system prompt it down to a more reasonable level and it will still take initiative, a little more than I would prefer.

Unrelated, but it's almost ten years

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