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I never quite understood what the point of this was beyond marketing. Linux is also not listed probably because no one ever paid to have it listed

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Apparently it was for legal reasons. Apple was sued by the Open Group for describing Mac OS X as Unix® so they decided it was cheaper to bring it up to spec rather than to fight the lawsuit.

https://retrocomputing.stackexchange.com/questions/27095/why...

https://www.quora.com/What-goes-into-making-an-OS-to-be-Unix...

This is incorrect.

More than 1 Linux distributions have been tested, passed, and listed in the past... But you need to pay again every year, and recertify every new version, and they didn't bother keeping it up.

I described them and what this meant in some depth in this 2023 article:

https://www.theregister.com/software/2023/01/17/unix-is-dead...

Enterpise espeically banking need standard and certification for reliability thats why , also certain Linux distro had certified before from China based on RHEL.

This is UNIX 03 certified OS with OSS alternatives from I gathered on internet :

- Apple OS X 10.7 - Apple macOS 26 , provide OSS Darwin 9 - Darwin 26

- Oracle Solaris 10 / 11 , provide OSS OpenSolais , then Illumos

- EulerOS 2.0 , based on RedHat Enterprise Linux / RHEL 7 and 8

- Inspur K-UX 2.0 , based on RedHat Enterprise Linux / RHEL 5

- Inspur K-UX 3.0 , based on RedHat Enterprise Linux / RHEL 7

It is specific Linux distributions that would be Unix-certified. Huawei had one; not sure if it has ever been on this page.

Enterprise. Checklists.

It was a legal problem, and an interesting story: https://www.quora.com/What-goes-into-making-an-OS-to-be-Unix...

And Gnu’s Not UNIX.

It would be marvelous to see GNU/Linux certified as a UNIX specifically with rms’s preferred GNU/Linux as the name.

They could even just call it GNU is now UNIX.

It was Stallman who came up with the name POSIX by the way.

IIRC there were some UNIX Linux distributions in the past but the certification wasn’t renewed

As described in the thread, EulerOS and Inspur K/UX were both certified in the past.

They were CentOS Linux derivatives.

Totally off topic, but I'm replying to an old comment from 3 months ago about me getting a ticket to KGATLW due to a gmail name typo. ("Are you in the weights?")

Yes I went!

The other me had bought new tickets already by the time I tracked him down, and he said "Just keep them!" I took the Amtrak down from Oregon to the Bay Area, and my daughter and I met up with the other me for drinks before the concert at the Frost Amphitheater. GREAT time, tons of fun. Wouldn't have been on my list per se but as an impulsive fun thing to do it was fantastic!

Thanks for the reply. I remember the original message. I’m glad to see you went and had a good time even if the music wasn’t entirely your cup of tea.

Frost Amphitheater was right before the 24 election, then they had another SF show the day after the election. It was such a vibe shift. Frost was good times kraut rock. The next show was pure electronic anger. I’m not usually into their electronic music but I was that night.

Linux can’t be listed, because Linux is not an operating system. It’s just a kernel. Unix specifies a whole operating system, which includes things like libc, cat, sh etc.

At best a distro could be certified. But that certification would not automatically extend to other distros.

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