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> an initiative of some Western states trying to get the most powerful state to play by their rules

That’s a bit of a americacentric view

America has been the most powerful state, like Britain was before, like China, Persia, etc before. This is reality, not a view. In history, there are few periods without a concept of "most powerful state" since humans built geopolitics into the most efficient way to advance the species (most animals are cooperative instead).

It's normal for times to change and finally cracks are showing in American hegemony (AI dominance will either make or break it). But ignoring that is just ignoring reality.

I’m not arguing with “the most powerful”, that’s correct at the moment; the ICC and similar international law enforcement were not established specifically to target USA hegemony.

Right I didn't read too much into the word "initiative", the ICC would obviously not exist if the US didn't want it to (the UN wouldn't exist if they didn't want it to, let alone want a tool for leverage) so of course it wasn't established specifically to target the US. So the poster was mostly talking about using it as a tool against the US now, not from founding, was my reading. Basically I can only see my own comment acknowledging American hegemony as "americacentric" (the current world was created by america), not the original one. Was there something else you meant?

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