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Energy means electricity in this case, and the EU prices are about 2-3x those paid in China AFAIK, for both residential and commercial.

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EU is big and prices vary. (Transfer capacity is limited)

Afaik electricity is around 7c/kWh in China. I got 8c/kWh 2y contract a couple weeks ago here in Finland. Though have to add 4c/kWh for transfer to that (no clue if the Chinese prices I could find include that). Commercial prices are less then that (no VAT and possibly lower power tax bracket. The 8c includes all taxes/fees)

The cheapest price in Europe at best equaling the average price in China sounds like it just proves my point?

No. You're comparing apples and oranges.

Please do elaborate.

You're comparing Europe (where the average monthly income is ~$3,184.98/mo [0]) with China (where the median monthly income is ~$431.38 USD USD[1]).

[0] https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/15216629/24279737/KS... [1] https://wage.is/china/

How is that relevant to the argument that legacy hardware’s power inefficiency isn’t as big of a deal when electricity prices are lower?

Since you didn't make this argument in this thread - how is that argument relevant to the discussion at hand?

Here is where the argument was made: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50041044

> I imagine those countries have sane energy prices compared to Western Europe.

No. There is no argument being made regarding "legacy hardware’s power inefficiency isn’t as big of a deal when electricity prices are lower".

That's just complaining that Western Europe has high energy prices compared to China without taking into consideration how different these economies are.

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