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> Though the sheer fact that in 2026 it's driven by Siri who is not a conversationalist AI, but still the same frustrating voice technology from 2011 is confusing they would even bother releasing this.

This is no longer the case. Siri as of iOS 27 is a gemini-based LLM system. It has a chatbot app and everything.

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Really? On my iPhone 15 Pro Max (older iphone) each time i want to have a complete conversation with it I have to constantly prompt it with Hey Siri then say next thing in conversation. Is that your experience?

I use and have used chatGPT voice while driving for awhile ... here's a very silly example https://www.instagram.com/p/DecaL9Gx6li/ . Besides that silly example im in school now and give chatGPT all my notes to create interact multiple choice questions i take while driving. Overall love hearing how other people are using chatGPT voice and or any other AI voice conversationalist tech.

That phone should support Siri AI.

Not when driving and an on my 15 Pro Max I constantly have to say hey siri after each time it responds vs. conversing with chatGPT throughout much my drives. Also, Siri is super slow and I still get "Something went wrong, please try again," 4 out of 10 times.

Also, my silly video shows just how far away chatGPT voice is where you can tell it to say things using different tones of voices. Funny one I tested this evening was having it deliver that silly 8th grade english to french translation in a Titantic the movie, "I'm the king of the world," expressive tone ha.

On iOS 27 with Siri AI, yes, it's conversational, no need to continually prompt it.

Unfortunately that's not what I experience.

What are your settings for Siri and which iPhone do you have?

iPhone 16 Pro Max but it's supported from the 15 Pro and up.

Right now it's only supported in English, and your phone language/locale also has to be in English. Then you go into Siri settings and make sure it doesn't say it still needs to download Siri AI.

Also it's not supported for EU users (however Apple determines that) since Apple won't follow the DMA.

It also requires that your region & language match exactly. Eg a region of UK but a language of English (US) does not work.

Have you actually tried using the new Siri conversationally? Because I have tried and tried on my 18 Pro and it is the most frustrating experience ever. The conversation window (time wise) is extremely tiny, she's basically only able to answer a single question and there is no real follow up.

I've tried conversing with it while driving and it is just useless.

Trying to converse with it sitting down and with all the time in the world just doesn't work either.

My choices are basically: use the worst AI assistant in the world, use ChatGPT, or just google it myfuckingself. Siri will never win this one.

E: an example of a frustrating experience making it useless: I was browsing marketplace for used Mac minis and found one pretty cheap. I ask Siri, hey siri tell me about this Mac mini. It identified the model via the model number, but when I asked it for the baseline specs for that model it just kept regurgitating the information listed on the screen. The reason I was asking was because the listing didn't list the amount of RAM, so Siri was just unable to tell me, no matter how I phrased it.

Agreed especially if like me you have used chatGPT voice for awhile. Apple is so behind and Siri is so slow and times out while GPT on my iPhone works 9.5 out of 10 times. Almost 10 out of 10 when driving but while Im hiking with friends and we are talking / brining GPT into our conversations during our hikes it does lose connection (hopefully Starlink Mobile solves this in a year or few).

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