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Same OpenCode team who ignore bug reports, don't respond on their discord, don't have modern CI/CD test suites (often shipping regressions), don't have bots to triage bug reports or PRs, and have what might be the worst open model subscription service available today.

OpenCode users: switching to Pi takes about 5 minutes, and customizing it to work just like OpenCode takes another 30 minutes. Better design, better devs, better community.

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While I just switched from OpenCode to Pi, I'm still unclear on which is better in terms of handling github issues/pull-requests. I do give OC credit here, especially after the last week.

Here's the Pi issue for a security feature request, derived from an opencode v2 security regression I was able to work through with the OC team. This issue links to the OpenCode ones too.

https://github.com/earendil-works/pi/issues/10895

The Pi dev does not seem to grasp the issue after several back and forths.

I do really like their CONTRIBUTING.md

https://github.com/earendil-works/pi/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING....

What open model subscription services are there that’s better. Genuinely interested in knowing.

I thought $80 of deepseek usage for $10 was a pretty good deal, but I’d be delighted to hear of better ones.

ollama cloud, syntetic - they both has much more care about quality of model hosting

OpenCode Go is the best deal in the market right now imo. Their quotas are so generous I often assume they are burning money, but I think they are largely thriving off of the subscription revenues and making it work, or their vendors are subsidizing things.

Charm Hyper is not only a better deal ($350 of credit on all models for $20), but their models don't run at 20t/s, more like 200t/s

I'm skeptical, their docs are pretty bad and the list of models there is really outdated. Not a good look

https://hyper.charm.land/docs/models.html

No prices on the pricing page, "credit" based systems is a non-starter for me, don't be different or "innovate" on pricing, unless it's an unlimited plan, but that is more progress and which I expect as commodification happens.

https://hyper.charm.land/docs/plans-billing.html

I am a user. They have the latest Qwen, DeepSeek, Moonshot, Z.AI, MiniMax, gpt-oss-120b, gemma-4-26b. They have them at the cheapest prices, very fast speeds consistently, caching works, and they're not dumbed down quants. The credit system is a substitute for dollars, like airline miles. $20 subscription is 250 credits per day covering all models. 1 credit is $0.05. Therefore you get $12.50 per day or $375 per month. You can buy more on-demand credits at $5 per 100. No complicated rate limits or per model price tiers like everyone else. I have not found a better provider yet and I've tried most of them.

I'm not interested in credit abstractions and no amount of convincing will change that, same reason I have no interest in Circle CI

If you like their service and the company, tell them they are losing potential customers with their inaccurate, minimal docs and unappealing pricing abstractions

> bug reports

> CI/CD test suites

None of these are considered important. Opencode is a vibecoded vibecoding tool, so 1) software quality is fundamentally unachievable and if they will pay attention to bugreports, they will simple drawn in them; 2) it's now a trend to delete tests in the name of AI ideology.

Do you mean the same OpenCode that has the owner shitposting on Twitter for most of the day typing in all lowercase?

Sorry, too busy vibe coding ship games.

https://x.com/thdxr/status/2110567456947507698

There's an actual team? I had the same experience and figured it was basically just one guy. Their issue backlog does seem a total shambles though.

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