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16-bit fully functional DIY magnetic core memory

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You can buy FRAM (Ferroelectric RAM) which are effectively the same thing just in smaller package. But I have seen them only about few kB. However the amount of R/W operations is effectively unlimited,

You can get them up to 16Mb/2MB. Which is 1/128 what NOR flash comes in for a similar price and package. Certainly a trade.

I think MRAM is the future though.

It is the future, and has been the future for almost 40 years already! I bet that's what the hoverboards will use inside their microcontrollers — gotta drive those portable fusion reactors reliably!

I though bubble memory was the future. Dammit, I missed another memo.

Phase-change memory is the most advanced high-endurance nvram, with Intel and Micron's XPoint being the most advanced to have hit production. If it had stuck around long enough for the RAMpocalypse, they'd probably sell out their production capacity.

Only if Flash stagnates as a technology. I suspect it will in the next 5 years due to reliability but you never know.

Yes, although (like some flash technology) read cycles are slower than write cycles, and it takes longer to read a 0 bit and than 1 bit (or vice versa).

FRAM is handy for replacement N64 Controller Paks where the capacity only needs to be 256Kbit / 32 KB, such as the FM28V020-SG used in this project:

https://github.com/Element18592/N64-FRAM-Memory-Pak

One of our product use msp430 FRAM version to store the motor position, due to high sampling rate, if we use flash we would burn through flash in no time. The FRAM is really neat.

With the current DRAM shortages, this couldn't have come at a better time.

I thought they meant bus width ...still impressed for entirely unexpected reasons.

Core64 has been selling a kit like this for some time:

https://www.core64.io/buy

(I chatted with them at the VCFMW, Vintage Computer Festival Mid-Waste, and they are very cool.)

Dataram, back in the day, made 'generic' core memory planes. That is, the had a relatively speaking simple electrical interface, and many vendors just implemented whatever was needed to hook it up to the vendors (usually) proprietary interface.

I have a couple I've been (very) slowly trying to get working with a modern-ish microcontroller with USB connectivity.

I have a little envelope of cores that I’ve been meaning to do something with for years, but they are just so tiny I haven’t wanted to mess with them. (Not sure when they were made, but I’m assuming fairly late based on the size.)

I doubt that this is the future. The future is to do calculations directly in the RAM.

You don't say.

I don't say what?

PIM. https://www.ramxeed.com/tech-column/pim-basics-and-applicati...

And strictly speaking, this a not a von Neumann architecture anymore.

Core memory has got you covered there too

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_logic

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p7SkE5pERtA

Neat! My Japanese is a bit rusty, how much memory is this?

Wait, is each of the rings one bit?

> Neat! My Japanese is a bit rusty, how much memory is this?

The smaller one is 16 bit. The larger one is 128 bytes, or 1024 bit. The PCB is labelled in English. ;) (pause at 49s)

(There are also subtitles in English, though, yes, those could be inaccurate.)

> Wait, is each of the rings one bit?

Yes. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic-core_memory>

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