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> I also wouldn't buy it for a second that Valve engineers aren't using AI...

I don't see why not. They clearly know what they are doing at Valve, and for an engineer who knows what he's doing, LLMs are of very limited use.

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I know a few very serious and well compensated programmers with decades of experience. These people work on prominent open source projects, climate modelling, linear programming, large org enginneering. Every single one of them uses LLMs heavily and swears by the increased productivity of using them.

And for every such person there's another person of similar experience that doesn't use an LLM nor wants to.

Maybe that's true, I don't know. I make no claims of an unbiased sample. Merely a counterfactual to the parent comment's claim that they aren't useful.

I find the opposite. A good engineer would tell the agent the "know what they know they're doing" part. Let the AI take that direction and context, let it implement/test it 100x faster than a human can by hand, the engineer come back and confirm AI did the job about the same way as they would have wanted it to be done themselves.

> for an engineer who knows what he's doing, LLMs are of very limited use

LLMs are very good at code analysis, and finding both security issues and optimization opportunities. Yes, even in code written by highly experienced human engineers. Failing to have an LLM look for places where your code could be optimized is, IMHO, indefensible. It's like shipping your binaries compiled at -O0 - deliberately choosing to waste your users' time and hardware resources because you couldn't be bothered to properly configure and run a tool.

If they knew what they are doing, it wouldn't take them >5000ms to draw a rectangle in win32

LLMs are more than a second brain for some folks here, without it they would literally be useless

Whew. The delusions on this site are getting out of hand.

> They clearly know what they are doing at Valve

Yeah, at promoting child gambling. Not sure about games

They literally just shipped a massive update for a game they've been developing for several years (Deadlock) and are releasing more content for it this Friday

Do you think Deadlock will not devolve into a mixture of gambling and hvh like every Valve multiplayer game that’s been relevant in the last 10 years (except Dota because hvh in dota sounds complex, so it's just gambling there)?

Fortnite avoids this by having no gambling and by making hvh infeasible FYI

Fortnite's shop is is psychological abuse against children and to compare it to Valve's "gambling" is laughably carrying water

If a child has unsupervised internet and bank account access then its a parenting issue.

Every Valve game utilizing this is rated M. Control your children better instead of blaming others for being a bad parent. If you children have money to gamble and you let them play mature-rated games then you are doing it wrong.

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