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Comment by AndrewKemendo | Hacker News Reader

I feel like you didn’t read my original post cause you’re just repeating the original claim that they need to compete in components market instead of consumer product market

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Theres a faulty mindset on here - where people view things as zero sum.

When S Jobs arrived back at Apple the mentality was not to compete with MSFT on everything and to co-operate where it made sense. Positive sum.

Indeed one of the great moments in computing history was the microsoft investment in apple

The greatest moment was Apple being the last vertical computer company left over from the 1980s, OSX second the iPhone third and Apple Silicon fourth. What saved Apple was their frugality as a company sound familiar? Not Microsoft’s measly $150 million settlement. No OSX and no iMac and Apple would’ve been doomed.

Microsoft currently is scrambling because they missed mobile and they’re currently losing in the gaming market. Microsoft is not even close to winning, because Sony and Nintendo have basically kicked their butt in gaming and now we have a new competitor in Steam, Microsoft is all in on Copilot and if it doesn’t work, Nadella and his game manager are done.

Yeah I’d agree

I can’t think of a single Microsoft product I would choose at this point

Ask Valve about it.

Yes, because they were almost bankrupt, hardly one year business left.

Nope - if anything anti-trust is closer to the truth. Bill needed Apple to survive.

I always find it interesting when poster's here post so confidently and are wrong.

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