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You're describing the back door release. I'm describing the front door release.

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If you knew that, then why did you think your statement:

> Every Tesla ever made has a door release that doesn't require any electricity.

Was a valid response to the comment you replied to:

> Like the people who get trapped in case of accident when the electricity fail and is burned inside?

Implying others are making untrue statements by making intentionally deceptive statements is very rude.

There was nothing deceptive about my statement. Every car has an obvious front door release. There are no cars where the non-obvious back door release is the only way out without electricity.

That's so patently unacceptable that I'm surprised you're taking that tack. You're in a lithium car fire, climbing into the front seat may not even be possible, and figuring out that your back door doesn't have an obvious release is time lost that all will have a cost in blood. There being two paths out of the maze doesn't make it not a maze.

But it's okay for cars to have child safety locks, even though they cause the exact same scenario.

At least on mine, if the car crashes, the child lock is disabled immediately.

BTW, the emergency release procedure should always be the same as the normal release process. All systems should fail to a safe state on a power loss. It’s easy to design a door lever that engages the powered open on pull and a mechanic mechanism when pulling harder or further.

It seems fair to judge this by the weakest link.

Good thing absolutely no one rides in the back of cars.

Bad faith argument.

Thank you for convincing me and everyone I know to never even ride in a Tesla, let alone buy one (and, sadly, I had planned to make one my next car).

I looked up the owner's manual description of the opening mechanism (posted by (ammar2, above) [0], and found it was an insanely dangerous design, literally worthy of an escape room as other sibling posters have described.

It is hidden below a mat, which must be removed, then a red tab pressed (not pulled), and there is a big caution AGAINST using it when the car has any power as it may damage the car.

So, you are in a rapidly expanding lithium fire, you must first determine if the car has power or not, and then you must fumble and root around to find which trim mat to pull, and then whether to pull (wrong) or push the red tab.

If you fail to do these steps quickly enough, you will die a horrible death in a fire (as many have).

If you use this lever at an inopportune time, you will damage the car.

In what other automobile does using a manual door-opening mechanism damage the vehicle?

This is one of the most insanely user- and owner-hostile designs I have ever encountered or heard of in life.

And it has actually unnecessarily cause at least a dozen people to be burned alive and conscious.

And here you are defending it in multiple posts like some idiotic fanboy. Seriously, rethink your priorities and your life. It is truly sad your identity so much depends on someone else's massively flawed personality and product designs.

[0] https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/2020_2024_modely/en_us/GU...

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