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Intentionally limiting access to accessible voting is problematic.

You also have issues of deanonymization if you only get a couple of ballots in via one method. In Maryland, for example, they're supposed to encourage at least 100 random people to use the accessible ballot marker per precinct for this reason.

It's not reasonable to tell people "too bad," fly back to the US as much as 3 times per year. They pay taxes and are subject to US law even though they're overseas, so they get to vote.

Ballot management becomes error prone. My county alone has 25 ballots due to the different combinations of state house, senate, Federal house, municipalities, and _all_ the special districts. (4 members to the board of directors of the Anytown West Memorial District, a.k.a. cemetery, because they had a property tax assessment when they built the thing in 1950)

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> Intentionally limiting access to accessible voting is problematic.

I offered nothing of the kind, except as to civilians residing abroad, and even then, I don't think there should be any obligation to provide online voting -- having to travel to a consulate is not too unreasonable.

> It's not reasonable to tell people "too bad," fly back to the US as much as 3 times per year. They pay taxes and are subject to US law even though they're overseas, so they get to vote.

Vote... where? In what state, in what county, in what precinct? The correct answer is that they should not have to pay income taxes while residing abroad, but also not get to vote while residing abroad.

For military the situation is simpler even if the personnel have no US-side residence: use the state/county/precinct of last residence. The same can apply to civilians, but I'd rather let them not pay state and federal income taxes while residing abroad.

> Ballot management becomes error prone. My county alone has 25 ballots due to the different combinations of state house, senate, Federal house, municipalities, and _all_ the special districts. (4 members to the board of directors of the Anytown West Memorial District, a.k.a. cemetery, because they had a property tax assessment when they built the thing in 1950)

That's a small county :)

>Vote... where? In what state, in what county, in what precinct?

No, you misunderstood the comment. It has nothing to do with residency, that's solved.

During a normal election year in the US, you have two elections: a primary and a general. The primary is not solely for political party nominations either, often other state and municipal questions get put on it.

Some places commonly end up getting a 3rd because, e.g. a senate seat becomes vacant and the state has a requirement to hold a vote on the replacement. Sometimes the seat becomes vacant as a result of taking a position in the new administration, so you end up having 3 elections a couple of months apart.

> It's not reasonable to tell people "too bad," fly back to the US as much as 3 times per year.

Where are you having elections three times per year? If you’re living abroad, you shouldn’t be voting in local elections because you’re not a resident. You probably shouldn’t be voting in state elections either because you’re not a resident. So you have to come back every 4 years to vote in the presidential election, or go to a consulate to vote every 4 years.

The US. Primary, general, and in a number of states, you have to have a special election to replace the senator/representative that joined the new administration or quit or whatever. Actually, that causes 4 elections because you have a primary for that. [1]

>You probably shouldn’t be voting in state elections either because you’re not a resident.

That's a matter for the state, and many say if you still have a house, or intend to return, then you vote there.

> If you’re living abroad, you shouldn’t be voting in local elections because you’re not a resident.

And no, a number of states allow voting in that case even if you're not a resident [2]. For instance, you own a vacation home, you get to vote on property tax related matters concerning that house.

[1] https://ballotpedia.org/Special_elections_to_the_119th_Unite...

[2] https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/voting-by-nonre...

You have not explained how you have 3 elections in a year.

Primaries don’t count, the party can set whatever rules they want.

You generally have to meet residency requirements to vote in state and local elections.

So, no, you don’t have to fly back 3 times per year.

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