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Comment by Jcampuzano2 | Hacker News Reader

Combined, their companies have broken basically every law in the book that you could when it comes to privacy and copyright.

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How copyright applies to ai training hasn't been established.

Good news, Congress can change the law to be whatever society wants.

congress can not pass ex post facto laws making things in the past retroactively illegal, it's in the constitution

Good news! That has nothing to do with writing laws that could force these companies to open everything up about the models if Congress decides to do so.

There's no law in the constitution stating that you're allowed to steal all of humanities offerings and sell it back to to the public.

Claims of "stealing" IP rests on copyright law which doesn't exist yet or is unclearly specified.

Which one specifically, with evidence? And if you're saying the current admin is protecting them, the acts shouldn't have been occurring previously?

Dude you could literally just type any of the company's names and add the word "lawsuit" after it and see a plethora of lawsuits that were either lost or settled, and the majority of them are privacy related.

Its hard to believe just how many of you are this defensive of these companies and are just completely disingenuous, as if they give a shit about you.

I literally just typed "google lawsuit" and these came up.

https://www.federalcellularclassaction.com/

https://www.googleassistantprivacylitigation.com/file\

https://www.courthousenews.com/judge-approves-68-million-goo...

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/new-mexico-jury-finds-fa...

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2019/07/...

Specifically?

Stop being disingenuous, it takes a literal 2-second search to find a plethora of examples.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50141449

You are posting links to civil judgements instead of criminal ones. This thread branch is about putting folks into prison. I am asking where these people have been convicted of a criminal offense where the punishment is prison. Do you have anything there? Because last I understood, the government needs to prove you guilty before they can incarcerate you in a prison.

Gasp, not copyright! Quick, get the pitchforks!!

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