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Germany's 17M Immigrants: Where They Come From

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The entire car industry around Stuttgart (Mercedes Benz, Porsche, etc.) was basically build on on shoulders of Turkish immigrants. They are a huge part of the workforce there.

Lots of them are very wealthy and basically DIN Germans by now.

And even the new immigrants: Germans can be lucky AMG is equivalent with "Ausländer mit Geld", otherwise a loyal customer base would be gone. And who would be so stupid to dismiss their best customers? (Well, maybe AfD voters.)

This page is inaccurate and forgets to mention the one of the largest immigration waves - repatriation of Germans from Eastern European countries. A lot of people born in Poland, Czechia, Ukraine, Russia or Kazakhstan are ethnic Germans that were either forced to move (Eastern Prussia) or were invited to come in admission of what they suffered as a result of Nazi invasion to those countries.

https://ourworldindata.org/where-do-migrants-live-and-where-...

The Russians were successful in seeding Germany. During the USSR, they purposefully sent Russians to East Berlin knowing that long term no matter what happens they will have a foot hold. This is their strategy for over a century, occupy land that is not yours and fill it with your slaves who will always be servants of your Empire of Evil for ever. It really is too bad that many of the Eastern Block countries did not implement forced repatriation of Russians back to Russia after the fall of the USSR.

People are not servants of evil. What motivates this insane reasoning? As somebody with a German Citizenship I love my country and everybody who inhabits it.

to give context: remigration is a slogan held by far right parties in Germany with ties to neo-nazi movements. currently there are discussions to ban the most prominent, the AfD. remigration is most likely not a belief held by the majority of people living in Germany.

That's not exactly the same, though. Soviet Union, while occupying countries, sent people to those countries with the explicit goal of replacing the local population, deporting the original population in parallel. That's why the majority on Crimea is Russian today. I'm not aware something like that happened in Germany, but what parent comment says and assumes happened here as well did in fact happen elsewhere.

Reagan called the USSR an evil empire in 1983. I get the historical reference. I lived it.

800 years of Russian history has taught you nothing.

This is historically inaccurate and ideologically charged.

"During USSR" as you say, first wave of Russian immigration settled in West Berlin in 1920s running away from Russian revolution, so you probably did not mean that period of time. During occupation of Germany by Allies, both NATO and Warsaw Pact maintained significant military presence in Germany, but in 1990 Soviets have left (feel free to check it yourself in Karlshorst), Americans stayed. There was no migration of civilian Russians to Germany at that time, but DDR welcomed workers from other countries like Vietnam. Speaking of today, you can look at statistics on citizenship of Berlin residents: there you will find that, for example, more Indians than Russians are currently living in Berlin. And of course more Ukrainians.

There were a lot of people born in Russia with German ancestors and they had to leave Russia during WW2 or later left by themselves when the Soviet Union collapsed. Many chose to go back to Germany. This is also why there are probably a lot of Kazakhs in those statistics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_Germans

Idk about Germany, but generally it's correct. That's why there are so many Russians in the Baltic countries and on the Crimea.

19.8% of the German population are immigrants. The US is only 15% and we act like we’re being invaded. The UK sits at 19%.

When jobs are scarce and housing unaffordable, no wonder people question these things.

No. 1.1M Germans live in the US. Left side immigrants. Right side Germans living abroad.

It even says so in the graphics (which easily reads from left to right: in/out).

Why blame migration? We all need to find a place in this world and we are all made equal.

No. Cultures matter. Homogenous society > GDP

The history of the US would imply otherwise. In any case, Germany definitely needs immigration for economic reasons as the population is aging.

If you are implying the downfall of the United States during the 20th century. You've made my point for me.

There are no 2 people on earth that are equal. Not even identical twins.

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