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Gotcha, essentially, unique in that the supply has remained zero, and no fulfilled orders/deliveries thus far, despite a nine year duration between initial announcement and the current date. I guess if that bothers you, cancel your order and get a refund? MKBHD has reportedly done so and gotten a full refund[0].

> Usually, if you had been unable to deliver a product in that time, it's probably about time to cancel it.

Why? Seems like demand (in this case) is sufficient enough to still launch the product. If a business has the demand for the product and sufficient capital to continue investing in an area they deem to have a viable product, isn't that their prerogative?

[0] - https://podscripts.co/podcasts/waveform-the-mkbhd-podcast/wh...

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Fair, I'll take notion that it's their prerogative. However, my understanding is that it's not trivial to cancel one's order[0], though as both your and my source points out: it is possible, though an unnecessary hassle (particularly for a company that was partially made famous by making ordering their cars so easy).

[0] https://arstechnica.com/cars/2025/10/sam-altman-wants-a-refu...

Fair point. There’s an absolute asymmetry between ease of placing an order and difficulty to cancel it. ISTR Nassim Taleb making a similar point on twitter, alleging he made a deposit for a car, on his phone, whilst in his pocket. Definitely worth keeping in mind.

Kinda like Pepsi and UPS. Seven years of waiting for their 1,000+ Semis they had ... 37, that mostly did yard work because... no charging network.

And then this year Musk's band of merry clowns announces that they've "completely redesigned the windows" because, I shit you not, "Turns out there’s a lot of infrastructure in the world, whether it’s a badge reader, or your toll booth, or you’re talking to somebody on a call box. There’s all kinds of stuff right at that height, and it became evident that we needed a roll-down window in order to make that infrastructure easier to interface with."

Spectacular R&D on which to tie your mission critical infrastructure to. Oh, and the charger network, "still a 'hurdle'", says an anonymous Tesla employee in a feat of understatement.

This is a completely different car than the one that was announced in 2017. So they cancelled it, and replaced it with a new one, which is likely never going to ship and will serve as a way to prop up whatever merger scam the CEO has cooking in his drug-impaired brain.

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