Comment by drivebyhooting | Hacker News Reader

Comment by drivebyhooting | Hacker News Reader

One aspect that currently frustrates me is that even paying for the highest plans and spending multiple quotas across all flagship models, I still haven’t been able to reproduce any of the amazing feats Anthropic and OpenAI gush about.

I suspect their internal harness, models, and thinking budget far outstrip anything us peasants have access to (never mind the compute). So saying that they achieve all these headline results with 3 hours of GPT Pro is disingenuous. If that were so, hundreds of math phd students would’ve already recognized it.

I’m coming to the realization that my monthly subscription is only helping subsidize their real internal AGI, and my interactions are a small amount of human feedback and creativity which they can strip mine should they choose to.

Or is it possible they have entire teams dedicated to this effort? Building an internal “math platform”.

They have been nerfing the models for us plebs for a while now. Anthropic does the same, and if the Chinese models aren't doing this already, they will eventually.

It's hard to prove, but I'm personally extremely convinced of this. The point of AI (from the perspective of these companies) is to solidify and centralize their control of the economy and the world.

If you ask Qwen3.8 to give you a list of things it would refuse to help you do, it will list a number of things related to building/creating/training/altering LLMs. This didn't make much sense to me until I read that the #1 thing these frontier companies are optimizing their models for is training/creating/editing newer AI models. That makes a lot of sense to me now, and that's also something which they will want to keep 100% under wraps.

Therefore the #1 focus of their research and efforts and expenditure will be something that they don't want any of us to get access to. I think many other behaviors like model nerfing follow from that. It helps explain these frontier research products which we ourselves cannot get access to.

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