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People should look up the North American Technate, because we're living in it. Its been a mission of techno-fascist for a couple decades, they're finally succeeding. They will get rid of democracy altogether

(they may have already, they can basically do mind control with recommendations algorithms and get swaths of people to do whatever they want).

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> because we're living in it

i don't see the correlation with current events. do you have a source that establishes this based on evidence?

You're currently in a thread discussing a news article that would be one piece of evidence. There's plenty of obvious evidence of technocratic influence in global poltics on all news platforms.

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/51954

Trump has also been posting maps that are identical to the North American Technate maps (that include Greenland).

https://bostonraremaps.com/inventory/technocracy-inc-technat...

Im not going to litigate reality with someone whos purposely denying it.

At long last! A Global Torment Nexus!!

If someone thinks they can profit off of or otherwise control the Torment Nexus, they will build it as fast as they can.

Some kind of a uh Prison Planet you say? Seems familiar. Oh, he's in on it and wants to sell me some boner pills instead?

Elon Musk’s grandfather, Joshua Haldeman, was a leader of that movement in Canada.

Fun read: https://www.cbc.ca/newsinteractives/features/joshua-haldeman...

From that article: "Haldeman died in a plane crash in 1974, when he was 72 years old. His grandson, Elon Musk, was just three."

A large minority of people cannot cope with losing elections. Shadowy forces are behind every loss. Ironically, it's this attitude that undermines democracy. More than Facebook at any rate...

> Shadowy forces are behind every loss. Ironically, it's this attitude that undermines democracy.

I mean, this is South America we're talking about. It's not attitudes that undermine their democracy, it's very notoriously US-based three letter agencies.[1][2][3][4][5]

[1] https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/legacy-posting/chile-united-states...

[2] https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/southern-cone/2025-1...

[3] https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB133/index.htm

[4] https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB465/

[5] https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/events/operation-condor-1975-1980

At least in certain parts of the world, there has been consistent efforts to manipulate the government and political movements for close to a century. It's not as if the US hasn't supported coup d'etats in Brazil, Chile, and other governments in South and Central America.

I don't believe this was the case, at least not openly, until Trump made it part of his platform. His personal ego injury has accelerated this massively, and fed into the right-wing cookersphere all over the place.

America has recently done a huge amount to undermine faith in its own democracy, and that has been gleefully spread around the world. Absent any evidence. It's gross.

I mean, if they have secret mind control powers that they've hid from the rest of the world for years, it seems kinda pointless to try and oppose them?

At that point, they've already won, neh?

(this is mostly to object that hyperbolic phrases like "basically mind control" don't do your argument any favor)

> secret mind control powers

Secret? Its called "X" and Facebook.

don't forget youtube

Okay so why are you immune to these magic mind control powers?

Or if you're not immune, why do they allow you to keep making these posts calling them out?

Clearly their argument is that social media algorithms has an outsize influence on people's opinions, and that a handful of people have the power to alter those algorithms and content feeds to influence people in a way they find favorable. It's not mind control, but in a country like the USA, shifting the middle 10% of voters to either side is enough to determine elections. They don't need to "mind control" everyone as a result.

I would call it mind control, I think normal people that know nothing about tech and have their gaurd down are quite hypnotized by doom scrolling social media.

I would say they can also successfully do "remote viewing" through a network of worldwide IOT devices.. While not metaphysical, modern surveillance techniques are certainly is inspired by those earlier more mystical ambitions.

Early intelligence programs had an outsized influence on Cybernetics and thus the internet.

Imagine telling a MK Ultra researcher in the CIA that in 50 years you'll be able to listen into, and steer the behavior of an individual through a glass screen they hold in their hands all day.. That you could target people individually, important people even, while they sit alone in a room customizing and tweaking the propaganda they see every 10 seconds as they touch the screen to swipe.

This all sounds pretty normal, and run of the mill to us now but if you take a step back its all very trippy. Its interesting to follow the evolution of early cybernetics research to the modern day and if you follow the lineage of researchers back in time you'll find some very suspect connections/influences.

This is nothing new, only it used to be the TV networks and their former owners (GE, Westinghouse, AOL/Time Warner).

That only makes any sense if you consider that influencing people is 100% effective. If you look at advertising, it clearly influences some people to buy certain products, but more cynical people might well see through the new product and realise that it's just the same as other un-advertised brands.

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