He said "Nokia". Nokia had usable keyboards, not that tiny BB thing where you need child fingers type with.

  https://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_e70-review-96.php
  https://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_e90-1857.php
  https://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_5730_xpressmusic-review-385.php

I had the E70 for many years. The keyboard was amazing, even better than the E90.