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Comment by nonethewiser | Hacker News Reader

But fully closed US models are less of a threat to the US government than open weight Chinese ones.

Open weight Chinese models are first and foremost a threat to the US companies producing closed models and because the US government is bought and paid for by the very same corporations, it tries to make the usage of open models within the US icky and this is an attempt to give that some authority.

Of course we in Europe should completely trust fully closed US models, otherwise tariffs/sanctions will ensure.

>Open weight Chinese models are first and foremost a threat to the US companies producing closed models and because the US government

Well maybe. But its also a security risk for the US government.

Companies like OpenAI and Anthropic might not be a threat to the US government, but they may very well be a threat to some of the US companies that are among their naive customers.

Really now? What if the Tech Brotherhood decides to subvert the current administration by secret manipulating sentiment via the answers their models produce?

Then they can be held fully accountable by US law.

The key word here is “secretly”.

And a Chinese company could secretly do it.

Any legal deterrent can be waved away by saying “but what if they do it secretly?”

It doesn't change the fact that US companies are subject to US laws. Conspiracy would just make the penalties steeper. Is it pointless to have laws against fraud, espionage, tax evasion, etc?

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