>Many here have expressed skepticism at GLP1s because they don't require the personal discipline
Personal discipline required for sustainable dieting is overblown.
People mostly crash diet in the name of dieting, then suffer and blame this suffering on "dieting."
Proper dieting is rare.
Even the weight loss studies which people often quote on how dieting/exercised failed obese people run 800–1,200 deficits, which make even an experienced dieter uncomfortable.