Hacker News Reader

IANAL, but it's not hard to find answers with a trivial search, eg.

https://kieferandkiefer.com/understanding-how-jury-verdicts-...

https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/reports/2006/R331...

It's not a jury verdict, and I am a lawyer...

Also, a paper from RAND from 1987? Are you for real?

I'm just a standard idiot, but didn't the jury return a verdict and the judge impose a penalty per found violation as a result here? https://nmcourts.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/10/Findings-and...

Genuinely curious and interested in learning!

The jury found liability. That's not the same thing as a jury making a damages determination on an amount. The judge imposed the penalty in accordance with the statute, and then went further and gave it a huge discount because how large it was.

Ah, so it's the penalty that's considered the verdict instead of the finding of liability? So much jargon in the world, so hard to track it all correctly :). Thanks!

It's really besides the point because what the other poster linked was articles about reducing jury damages verdicts. These were not jury-imposed damages and none of the bases that apply to reducing jury damage verdicts apply in this context.

Reply on news.ycombinator.com