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Criticisms of the format, "the same people", are virtually always irrational/tribalistic, and based on the "invented enemy" internet trope that happens when interpreting groups of people as being one person. I'd like to leave such common tropes outside of HN.

It’s the goomba fallacy: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Goomba_fallacy

In other circumstances, I'd be the first to agree, but you'll find people arguing for both sides in the same comment in this very comment section.

> And on every misstep and their correction, the same people will be defending them.

That doesn't match my experience. Personally I've found Apple fans (not just Gruber and Nielsen but regular Apple users) to be the most vocally critical of their design missteps.

You know, it’s really not what happened. All these people, Gruber, Siracusa, and the usual suspects, were unanimous in their displeasure.

You don’t have to make it up, it was only one year ago. All their blog posts are still visible.