Elon Musk scam makes Theranos, ENRON looks like a kinder garden children.
PS: I am not parent commenter, and this separately to the famous gesture with the arm that E.M. did, what can be guessed that harmed the sales.
As well the capital spending on Optimus is hurting the bottom line.
What is the scam? I do not like EVs and do not own a Tesla car, but Tesla does make them, they do work, and people do like them. Theranos, by comparison, never delivered (nor could deliver) what they promised. So I am not sure I get your comparison.
There’s also DOGE and all the related stock manipulation that happened, the tweet promising funding to take TSLA private which obviously made people buy the stock, the ru[n|i]ning of Twitter for political gain, the creation of teams in Tesla to convince owners not to come investigate battery/range issues under warranty, etc.
Probably not quite to Theranos levels, but I can see the pattern.
And people on Hardware 3 should collectively sue, because they will never, ever, ever, ever get FSD fully working on that. But instead of admiting that and paying people back (if they want) they continue to release small updates to pretendent its still possible. Musk is known for not giving a shit of supporting old shit, he looks at only the future always.
It’s like the entire city of Austin. It’s also the entire Bay Area.
I’m only making the point that it’s a real product and you can buy it. Sort of implied by the parent comment of it being a “scam” meaning that it was never delivered.
HW3 gets a supervised version which is the best they can do with the hardware that they shipped, it’s unfortunate I agree but it’s not totally out of line with what happens with other devices like the iPhone. Apple has a version of Apple Intelligence which is neutered on older devices, presumably because of hardware limitations.
Ok, doesn't change my point.
And Musk himself said that geo-fanced self driving isn't self driving.
> HW3 gets a supervised version which is the best they can do with the hardware that they shipped, it’s unfortunate
Its quite literally a scam and it should be viewed as such. Musk said that since like 2017 sold cars where he advertised this feature.
Also, even HW4, current FSD Beta is nowhere near actually self driving or anywhere near that is can independently go out or even make money for you while you work.
So its quite clear that HW4 will not reach that level either, so we just keep kicking that down the road while having essentially scammed all buyers since then and refused them the ability to get their money back at the very least.
And they just moved it back another year in the last call. But sure next year he wont pull the football.
> Apple has a version of Apple Intelligence which is neutered on older devices, presumably because of hardware limitations.
I don't know about Apple, I at least haven't heard about them claiming that the old phones would be able to do some incredible things.
Gentle reminder that Tesla itself opted to call Tesla's sham of a FSD as "Tesla assisted driving" after regulators from multiple European countries made it very clear that at best ist assists drivers and still require drivers to never take their attention off the road.