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Overgrown, when plants invade your abandoned tabs

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I'm probably in the minority but I can't stand having more than 10 tabs and I start have the urge to finish the task that I'm focused on to just close as many tabs as possible.

So I really read the people talking about 100s of tabs and when I see a colleague having them, I feel that my cognitive ability to deal with that is not there.

I understand that people would like to keep things and that bookmarks sucks, but I would suggest for those to explore Hister [1] and Karakeep [2]. It is much useful that I don't worry about losing stuff now.

[1] https://github.com/asciimoo/hister/ [2] https://github.com/karakeep-app/karakeep

Thanks for the links, that looks useful.

I am a tab hoarder. It's usually because a task requires me to open a dozen tab, and I may have multiple tasks, including ones I intend to come back to later, if I ever have the time.

And no, I do not really have more cognitive ability. Or at least certainly not to the point where I can remember each tab.

I wish I had another way to visualize them. A mind map would be ideal, this is also why I like tab groups and tree-style tabs.

Let's pick an example: I am looking for a product (could be a car, screen, mouse, etc). I explore the product space, perform a wide search first to identify candidates. ~10 tabs. Then I make a short list. 5-15 tabs. For each, I will look at datasheets, reviews, manuals, search for common issues, availability of spare parts, etc. Dozens of tabs per product, but I will close most of these, and leave the most salient ones open. Prune the whole product from the tree if I can eliminate it. And so on (availability at retailers, second hand stores, etc), until the task is done.

Obviously the depth will vary from one task to another, but this is how I usually work on any topic, including literature review. So I only have "root nodes" with the next 20-ish tabs related to it. I don't mind archiving and restoring a tree later, but "out of sight, out of mind", and having them visible reminds me of the tasks in flight.

There are probably more effective ways to work, including spreadsheets (I use them when there is a lot of data to track), but browsers aren't bad at handling that many tabs, usually. Though I also tend to leave a huge quantity of tabs open on my phone: half-read articles that I intend to come back to. Wallabag may help there?

I would conclude by saying it's probably (bad?) habits, a locally optimum workflow, I should expend some energy to try a better approach.

Anyway, your two links are now sitting in my open tabs, hopefully I will come back to them at some point :)

Maybe tab groups would be enough? One group per product. Close the whole group with one click, and you can reorder them based on preference. It’s what I use for different tasks since they all have their own repo, pipelines, docs, etc

I lost the habit of using them when they got removed from Firefox (I used to be a heavy user), but I am coming back to them.

Here, I would tend to make a tab group per activity (so all products contained inside), so it is not too useful, but at least that allows me to collapse children tabs. It is also nice to be able to close the group and reopen it later.

Overall, I am fairly satisfied by TreeStyleTabs, but the extension must have a memory leak as it tends to use gigabytes of RAM.

Tab groups are available on Firefox mobile, but they have a major deficiency: new tabs are not opened in the same group, so I cannot have, say, a HN group with comments and websites automatically added to it, so the overhead of adding them manually is too high.

I do the same thing. But there's always another level I see a lot of people (well the ones sharing their screen in meetings) forget about: Windows.

For each topic, I have a window for it. And I have at least 5 windows always open (e.g. Email, Youtube [currently 25 paused videos], HN [Sometimes I'll keep articles open I want to get to, but then I will blindly close hem all to start over], Google Drive, Google Music, etc). That way I can close the window when that task is complete.

I always tell myself that I can just Bookmark those 5 things and go to that site again, but I never do.

I use them as well, though a bit less, especially on a tiling WM (well, I could also tab my windows...). However, I'll often put a separate browser window on a virtual workspace when working on a dedicated topic.

> people talking about 100s of tabs

This is a form of bookmarking in practice. I know people doing this and none could list what the tabs are without checking each one. In the physical world you have the equivalent of people having the desk full of stuff they never use but don't put away because they might use it later.

I also can't have more than 10 tabs. More than that and I automatically go into clean up mode.

> I feel that my cognitive ability to deal with that is not there.

I dunno, I've always thought of 100+ tab people similarly to people who don't like to clean up their bedroom. Just a different preference for tidiness/organization, rather than a greater cognitive ability.

> different preference for tidiness/organization

Preference indeed. Us people whose desks look like 3 minutes after a bomb fell usually know exactly what is on that desk and can reach for it without looking.

It's the real life stack

Thanks for the links. Are these projects complementary? They seem quite similar.

They are actually similar in the goal but I use them both for different reasons. Hister does save all of my history for desktop (not available on iOS yet) so I use it as backup to get something I wanted to see but lost. But Karakeep is everywhere and I save things there that I want to keep (it can save the actual page) and can use it on mobile ....etc (and share it too).

This is at least my workflow which can be different. Both are great tools and selfhosted.

On my work computer I usually close all of my tabs at the end of the day, and/or when I change tasks. Sometimes, if I'm working on a multi-day challenging task, I might keep a few tabs open.

Otherwise, if I "might" go back to something, I bookmark it.

honestly I "use" less then 10 tabs

but I abuse tabs (and especially tab groups) as a form a "read later"

sure there are extensions which do that better, but they aren't build-in and given how dangerous extensions can be (depending on a lot of criteria) and tab groups being close to "all I want" it's just not worth it

loved the idea when FF adopted pocked, but Pocked never really clicked with me and it was never fully transparently integrated into the browser.

and yes this approach is prone to losing tabs in various situations, but lets be honest if I haven't read something by the time I lose a tab in the end it's just an indicator that it's probably doesn't matter

I also don't get the point, genx that still knows how to use bookmarks.

> I would suggest for those to explore Hister [1] and Karakeep [2]

... and linkding (which I moved to after using Karakeep). https://linkding.link/

This isn’t as useless as it seems. It is a visual representation of how old the tab is. And I control what “old” is.

To put it another way, it helps me recognize which tabs I am using. And which I am saving for later without having to evaluate the content of the tab.

One tweak… the coverage percentage can it be adjustable? Max = 100% looses all information about the pages contents, except the title.

Also also… if the images can be made translucent… you can make old timey effects like yellowing and decay.

It also creates a human feedback loop. It will train you to instinctively not keep old tabs open as you need to deal with the plants.

Why would you not want to keep them open?

Resource conservation ( memory ), attention conservation ( focus, change for additional distractions ) come to mind.

If you have tabs sitting there unused for days, isn't that just a bookmark?

I use tabs as ephemeral bookmarks, yeah

Maybe there’s a better way

I had the same habit, so I built an extension for it: tabs you haven't touched in a while get auto-archived after a certain period of time, and you can search the archive later.

There's a free tier, and a paid plan for heavier use. You can try it out here: https://tabsprompt.com

Bookmarks are so badly neglected tabs might be preferable. Firefox mobile doesn't even allow you to tag new bookmarks.

Been years since I used tags in bookmarks, but on FF mobile I do often miss qutebrowser's quickmarks. I have a lot of stuff like "malw" to get to my MAL Watching list on my PC. My compromise on mobile is to use the bookmark titles kinda like a search or a description with keyboard stuffing, so maybe the default name of the bookmark is something generic like "MyAnimeList.net", I'll put "malw - " at the start of it, then next time I hit new tab and type malw out of habit it should come up. Not as good or reliable as a quickmark, but you could probably do something similar for a tag replacement. Bookmark some blog post about the Amiga, edit the title, throw in "retrocomputing diy technology blogpost hacking" or similar on either end, then when you type in "retrocomputing" later it should show up along your other stuff with that in the title. Might be more primitive but should do the trick.

> Bookmarks are so badly neglected tabs might be preferable.

Okay, okay, but what if! https://files.catbox.moe/4m6c5x.png

Or a history item!

People forget about browser history. It’s super useful.

My technique: I open tabs just like anyone else, and when I feel like “that’s too many tabs”, I just close them all. Every one of them.

If I need them again? Open up the browser history. It’s searchable. It has everything. Use it!

At work I’m basically required to use Chrome and Chrome does not keep browser history beyond 90 days. That is useless. An open tab can easily last more than 90 days and survive restarts.

> An open tab can easily last more than 90 days and survive restarts.

This fills me with horror. Different strokes I guess.

For example at work I open a tab with the bug tracker page whenever I start a project. For large projects this easily takes many months to complete. Then I close the tab when the project is done and launched. Roughly speaking one open tab = one TODO item.

> It’s searchable.

not very well, except you add a lot keywords to website title manually via bookmaeks

Browser history is nothing but self incriminating evidence. Why would you keep it around?

Sometimes you want to go to a website a second time.

I do it all the time

Why? I don't really have anything that dangerous, illegal, or weird open... And the browser history on my local machine is at most exposed to me and my fiancé, who I don't really care to hide it away from.

You do you, I'll do me. I know I'm not the only one, otherwise, the option wouldn't even be available as a preference. Just because you can't think of a reason someone might want to use that option does not mean everyone else is the same level of unimaginative.

As for specifics of why, that's something I've chosen to do and that's all that matters.

> As for specifics of why, that's something I've chosen to do and that's all that matters.

No obligation to share, certainly.

Curiosity is there in part because we may learn a valuable lesson - something those “with nothing to hide” [I know] might not’ve considered. (not a request, we can learn from others)

Damn, that’s a very defensive take for someone who started by asking why anyone would behave differently to them.

Are you against journaling for self-reflection?

I don't keep a diary if that's what you're asking, but it doesn't mean that I can't look back on things to help make decisions for future growth.

Not really sure how any of that has anything to do with leaving a browser history

Perhaps curious if the thinking extends to:

“[Any/most documentation of activity and behavior] is nothing but self incriminating evidence.”

We've all see the stories about people being forced to grant access at border crossings. This is a specific type of information they would love to see. Being in the habit of not storing it means you don't have to forget to do it at the random time you need to have it deleted. So when you do a full shut down before going through the airport, which you obviously do, your browser has already cleaned up for you.

I don't care if I think I've done nothing wrong. The jackbooted thugs at the border might have a different say so, and now you're screwed because you felt like your history was necessary. I trust no one, and I'm not even a freedom fighter.

Some times it really is paranoia.

To be fair, it seems like we have no rights at borders and I think I read searches are way up or something.

Unfortunately might be safer to have inoffensive browser history rather than none if I had to speculate.

If authorities already have the means to access your browser history then deleting it won't accomplish anything. They can just install malware and see what you're browsing anyway.

In a remote hack or an evil maid attack, sure. If you get targeted for something, and your computer is confiscated and searched, the less ammunition stored there the better. With a large enough dataset (emails, web history, etc.) it’s pretty easy to cherry pick data points to build a narrative.

I don’t bother with this level of defensiveness but I can follow the reasoning.

I would've thought it paranoia that such things would happen in the west, but given the insanity in the UK in recent years (1) maybe it's not. Seems pretty common to get arrested in the UK for posting memes.

1: https://www.fire.org/news/blogs/free-speech-dispatch/uk-teen...

In that case, full disk encryption is the only effective mitigation. As far as I know, there isn't a legal way to make you decrypt a personal device.

At border crossings they can deny you entry into the country if you refuse to allow your devices to be searched. Even if you're a US citizen re-entering the US, you will be denied entry if you don't comply. So while that can't force you they have pretty strong power of coercion, to the point where you're forced for all practical purposes.

Unfortunately this is true, border crossings are a special case and I'm still not sure what the best approach is for that. I imagine you would have to mail your device to the destination before you cross or just leave it at home. Alternatively, store the encrypted data in the cloud, download it at the destination, then wipe it from the device when you're done.

I don't generally do anything "incriminating" that would need to stay out of my browser history, and even if I did, clearing your local browser history isn't going to mean much: If it's truly criminal stuff you're talking about, all the websites you use are likely subpoena-able anyway and they'll get your "history" one way or another.

For mildly "incriminating" stuff that isn't illegal, just use an Incognito window. :-)

You might like Tab Session Manager, which also lets you tag and search your saved window/tab sessions and annotates them with a date.

https://tab-session-manager.sienori.com/

At some point it can get up to a few gigs and need pruning. But knowing you can just close a window with 50+ tabs and not loose anything is super cool

Nah, my point is that having tons of tabs open literally clouds my mind, like being in a messy room. Closing the tabs feels like I'm tidying up. History exists so that I can still go back to a tab if I really need it, which makes it less "scary" to simply start from a clean slate.

If we are going down the rabbit hole - I like to use groups as my "tookmarks" or "babs" so to speak. They act like both and help to keep things organized by project. Bookmarks are for permanent things, e.g. for work it might be direct deep links to things for the service(s) your team operates, and groups for projects e.g. this quarter we are adding spinners to the fidgets, and then regular tabs for the ephemeral, e.g. googling why ain't Docker decking the ducks.

It would cause more tabs to be open.

You can't use the old tab because all the plants. You open a new tab for the same page. Don't need to close any old tab for that.

Pro talking here…

Seems like we're recognizing something that people actually want: The assurance that their state will be preserved

versus what the operating system or browser can provide.

In fact, weren't bookmarks supposed to solve EXACTLY this? You'd just bookmark a website on any page then come back to it any time in the future.

But then websites wanted to be apps and stopped storing state in the URL...

It's not about the state of the actual page since that can go away as soon as the browser restarts or even when memory gets low.

But tabs store history, and that's important pretty often to me. And I can dig through multiple tabs and their histories together.

Have session storage extensions ever caught up to where they were before firefox dumped XUL?

> But tabs store history, and that's important pretty often to me. And I can dig through multiple tabs and their histories together.

Oh yeah, you're right. I do sometimes need the Back button to retain its history, and sometimes duplicate tabs to start a new "breadcrumb" path.

I'm working on tab garbage collection too!

https://github.com/echelon/browser-focus

I need to add screenshots.

Basically puts an overlay on all timed out tabs, shows all timed out tabs so you can kill them all together, etc.

I want a better algorithm / heuristic that can semantically track what I'm doing.

I might eventually be brave enough to break out of tabs and let my windowing system handle everything.

It discourages and frustrates. So yes, it is useless in terms of modern browsing.

Even if it were useless, it still wouldn't be useless! Remember that old windows program that would let you smash your screen with hammers and shoot it with guns? I knew several people growing up who would have been offended and flabbergasted by the assertion that it was useless :)

I don't think any browsers are really designed for the range of how many tabs people keep open.

I also wonder what the distribution does really look like. Just on my primary profile here I felt like I was making progress trying to get it to under 2000 tabs recently.

It feels like a hopeless battle though. Across multiple machines and browsers and browser profiles i'd reckon i'm stuck at like 12,000 open tabs.

Do you actually come back to a tab 2,000 tabs later?

Lately I've tried using an extension to close any tabs I haven't opened for a few days. I haven't missed them, and if I actually want to come back to something, I make a todo now.

I do come back to a non-trivial amount.

The main issue is overcoming i opened a tab for reason and i want to close a tab for a reason, but tabs usually lead to more tabs so even trying to stay on top of it, it just endlessly grows.

Youtube alone is a major culprit and i'm confused on how everyone doesn't have at least several hundred videos they started watching or opened in a tab out of possible future interest.

For youtube, sticking it on 'watch later' is one approach, or some other playlist. Even better, that way you can cronjob a script to save them locally. I'll leave youtube tabs for too long (despite this) and too often I've eventually returned and it's been removed. My other tab-shrinking habits are bookmark folders in the form "year-unread" and a local txt file where I loosely dump related URLs into pseudo-categories/sections.

Might be just me but I just close everything at the end of day to start a clean slate for next day (usually around 50). I also just use bookmarks for persistent autocomplete.

I think your approach is the general normal one.

If I don’t do this my workday doesn’t feel finished. Close all tabs, close all applications. Done, end of day.

I used to be so good at this, then came Claude. My newest invention is a root Claude that has clear instructions on how to handle me, and it writes handoff notes. Doesn’t help though so mayday.

This is bizarre to me. I close Out my browser completely several times a day lol.

My wife refuses to use bookmarks and instead uses open tabs. It drives me nuts.

I do the same. Bookmarks are a case of “out of sight, out of mind”, whereas I come across open tabs eventually. They are like physical cues to remind me of things, akin to leaving the trash bag in front of the door so you can’t forget to take it when you leave.

If you have 12,000 trash bags in front of the door it is no longer a useful signal and is instead a safety hazard.

that... is a good point.

This feels like a hoarders mentality. You don't have to answer this but do you hoard in any other aspects of life? There's nothing more therapeutic than closing tabs. Worst case, everything is in history and can be opened again.

No I don't think I do. I associate "hoarders" with reality tv and disastrously messy homes though which I can't relate to.

If anything though I would say I associate open tabs in the same vein as an infinitely growing number of books in the to read list or movies in the to watch list. Both usually leading to a tree branch style recommendation of more and more books or movies I might be interested in after consuming.

a mix of digital hoarding and FOMO

> i'm stuck at like 12,000 open tabs

Would you mind giving this a shot and sharing your feedback? https://github.com/TheCodeArtist/firefox-tabs-review

Helps wade through the backlog of tabs to "burndown" one by one or en-masse?

> Too many tabs? Manage them down one-by-one...

Isn't it dead at the slogan already?

What do you mean? Cannot "one-by-one" needs a bulk option? Something else?

This is nice, but doesn't really have a way to easily close those tabs. I still need to manually hunt for them one-by-one and close them. I don't think this would scale to 12k tabs.

Making this into a browser extension should enable supporting such a behavior.

In the meantime, added support for "Find tab" option that guides the user switch to the tab of interest with minimal keystrokes using the browser's built-in search-tab functionality.

Published a version 1.1.

Get the "One Tab" extension. It closes all tabs, but saves a list, so it gets over the psychological hurdle of losing the open tabs.

Tabs Georg who has 12k tabs open is an outlier and should not have been counted.

Mobile browsers do it well.

Are you on Chrome?

What is the point of having that many tabs open? You just need to close your browser and start over from one. Websites don't go away just because you close the tab, you can come back later.

Wow, I start to feel bad whenever I get above maybe 10-15. I can't imagine what it must look like inside your head if you're ok with 12k. :)

Honest question how many of that 2k are just the same webpages but just different days?

I personally am a close the whole browser out at the end of the day guy. With bookmarks for things I just have not got to yet. With a every few months cleanup of the 'to do' folder. Just today I have probably opened 20 tabs and closed 15 so far. At the end of the day they should all be gone.

Related work: Trello allows 'aging' for tasks. One can set them to become more transparent over time or turn into stained 'pirate' paper.

https://trello.com/power-ups/55a5d917446f517774210012

Cursed skeuomorphism

"Originally, I was thinking about blocking users from closing their overgrown tabs until they slash all plants, but I thought it would be too annoying... " I would ask that you please add this as an option :), might actually use it for that feature alone because I do accidentally close old tabs by accident without noticing that was meaning to keep open.

On windows Ctrl+Shift+T will reopen your last closed tab. Press repeatedly to reopen next most recent.

Fun project, but I also really liked the way she came up with it:

I was doing a little creative exercise the other day around the word "Overgrowth”…

Is this a common thing in the creative space? Seems like a fun activity

People get inspired by seeing a new color, smelling a new scent, or hearing a new song. Inspiration comes in all shapes and forms. Makes me kind of sad that you seemingly haven't been inspired by something random in life yet.

These useless programs are like what you used to see back in win98 or winxp with dancing monkey or scoopydoo walking all over your desktop windows, which I think later turned to human dancers before being used to distribute all sort of viruses.

sheep.exe was not useless, I loved it. you take that back.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BonziBuddy

"BonziBuddy was described as spyware[1] and adware,[2] and was discontinued in 2004 after Bonzi Software, Inc. faced lawsuits and fines regarding the software.[3]"

It's just a matter of time before something like a "Zoltar screensaver for Basecamp" becomes an IP siphon.

I miss BonziBuddy. He had personality in a way that our modern agents lack.

Surprising there's only one comment mentioning tab unloading. I'm the kind of person who has hundreds of tabs opened (422 right now), and this tool is useless for me because at any time only ~20 of them are loaded. And I'm not going to visit a tab to see how overgrown it is, something like this would work better if it worked on tab items in the tab bar instead of the contents of the tabs themselves.

Exactly my thoughts, I love this idea, but would like the vines to grow over the tab items instead of the window itself. the trouble there however is that sometimes my tab icons are literally just icons (or even less) with my tab hoarding tendencies

Chrome's "tab group" feature is awesome and it ended my issue with unaddressed and open tabs. It even works on Chrome for Android mobile.

I like it!

I have a ton of these tabs. I don't consider them "neglected" though.

Some things take years to come to fruition. You can't just go buy them at home despot.

Maybe younger people don't yet have an appreciation for things that assume an air of legacy and heritage after many years of "just sitting there".

When finally re-visited, they have a meaning that can only accumulate with the passage of significant time...

I did a small mockup (built by a LLM agent) of a related concept. A page that gets more wear where people interact with it https://app.squidler.io/peggy/patina/

I wrote Hello and when I refreshed, my word was mostly missing, but someone has drawn a lovely x-rated image in it's place

Forgot about the TTP (stupid me).

> Just for fun, you can pick your weapon of choice between the rusty machete, the chainsaw and the flamethrower.

Tab hoarding is why I've gone back from vertical tabs to horizontal and stopped using tab groups.

Horizontal tabs bunching up and becoming cluttered is a feature I really enjoy. I love the feeling of reaching the end of a project/milestone and closing a whole load of tabs. Vertical tabs just start scrolling and once you start adding groups you quickly lose track.

I think people who like vertical tabs and trees etc. use tabs as a sort of long-term knowledge base. But I think tabs work better as an ephemeral/current state. There are much better tools for building knowledge bases then browser tabs.

  Zero regrets: Firefox power user kept 7,500 tabs open for two years

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41156568

Woah, my interests! Anyone have any tips or favorite projects to share from procedural vine/flora generation? It's a fascinating space, and this extension seems to do surprisingly convincing job of it

This is so useless yet so cool!

It doesn't do anything for shareholder value, but I love it.

Unless you make ram

It is absolutely! (But nobody better try putting this on my browser.)

Nice, I have sth similar on my wiki, namely random binary string overlaying the page with the text "If you can read this text (opacity=0.41) if means the page has not been edited for a long time. Consequently the information it holds might be deprecated or no longer represent the opinion of this author." to clarify.

I like to throw cress seeds into unattended keyboards

Cress is a word I haven't heard in decades. Got to get some cress!

Classic joke at university was to sprinkle cress seeds on the carpet of someone's room and water it with a fine mist from a plant sprayer. In the morning the inhabitant would wake up to a neat lawn that had appeared overnight by magic.

OK, now I'm having flashbacks of astronomy Macintosh lab, late at night, too much homework (early 90's).

Fell asleep in front of keyboard, woke up to "Can of Worms" screensaver (never seen it before), had a heck of a start, wondering what the sound was, and what all those things were crawling all over the screen???

Can they really grow that fast?

I currently have like 300 tabs open across 4 machines (two computers, a tablet and a phone). Some have been open for 2 or 3 years :)

Closing tabs open for too long would definitely a good idea. Then there are tabs that are open for years and years (like my nextcloud tab) and it's as it should be...

Who else starts with zero tabs every day?

Looks cool!

Personally, I don't like too many tabs opened at the same time, prefer bookmarks for "later". Trying to imagine what would I do with this plants invaded tabs - just close it 100%

Anyway, the idea is entertaining and the execution is beaitiful

Delightful. This reminds me of the whimsy from the early 2000s.

"Screenshot your desktop and then render funny stuff all over it" was a whole genre, including both the desktop pets/buddies, and the Desktop Destroyer.

In a similar vein, Apple in the ¿’90s? toyed with the idea of making desktop icons show their age, and of making directories with lots of content bulkier and harder to drag around.

I don’t think that ever led to a real product.

This is so cool! I wish for this to be available on Firefox, where I usually have multiple windows with each window having several tabs. The repository doesn’t make it clear if this works on non-Chrome/ium browsers.

Wouldn't use the extension but I like the metaphor of unread tabs being like overgrown weeds

When I first read the title I just imagined a visual effect for sleeping tabs in the top bar :')

You could combine this with tab unloading to save resources once a tab has gotten completely overgrown.

Oh man, hope my computer won't lag rendering the whole amazon rainforest

Hoarding tabs is a mental illness, just like real hoarders in real life.

Need more of this kind of fun!

I just use a tab suspender, I prefer having RAM over having something cute.

found the shareholder

almost completely off-topic, but the demo video very heavy reminded me of http://www.traumagame.com/

Can I have the same for my chatGPT chats?

Shaka, when the walls fell

People who keep tabs open too long are the same as those who store files in the system trash.

At some point it’ll get flushed and you’ll only have yourself to blame…

And while initially you fear that you may have lost something valuable, you also immediately feel like a great burden has been lifted...

I'm one of those people.

I have serious ADHD and I often dive a rabbit hole for an idea for side project. Or research. Or combination of both. Most of my side projects you could categorize as spikes. There's no serious intent on delivering something of value for the world, just going from A to B and learning a thing or two on the run.

I'm like kerosene, I light up instantly, but the fire goes away very quickly. I can be researching a thing for 3 nights straight in my spare time to gather hooks and pieces of information... and then I get distracted and my focus goes somewhere else. And I'm left with 10 tabs that were suppose to kick start my idea.

To my own surprise I tend to go back to these ideas, but sometimes it takes me months, and sometimes, I keep these tabs on one of my devices, opened for months at a time. Sometimes I scrape them, adding links with notes to Obsidian.

Of course the amount of hoarded information vastly exceeds my throughput.

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