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Comment by iririririr | Hacker News Reader

the fact this opinion is voted down, is clear proof HN is late to be renamed something else, because hacker it isn't

I once again am pointing to the sign that states this was never a l33t-hax0r board like you all think; it's always been an arm of one of the leading VC incubators.

Stop expecting differently.

Curious now: why did they call it "hackernews"? I came for the name, definitely not for the VCs. The one thing I dislike more than BigTech is VCs.

You answered your own question :)

Haha yeah, well played :-)

You write as if the hacker culture has a trademark on the word "hacker".

HN for HackerNots.

I don’t think that hackers would agree to be locked out of a system, or do you mean they want to be locked out as a challenge? In any case you don’t get to choose which OS gets installed, so the parent’s opinion is hypothetical.

> In any case you don’t get to choose which OS gets installed

Of course you do. You can run GrapheneOS, or LineageOS, postmarketOS, or mobian, or many others. All of those are open source, you can modify them as you want before you flash them.

All the same OS in a different shirt

Wait, what? Are Windows, macOS and OpenBSD also the same OS in a different shirt? What do you consider a different OS then?

Sorry didn’t realize you were installing them on your formerly Android phone.

Apparently you do not realise that GrapheneOS and LineageOS are based on AOSP, while postmarketOS and mobian are Linux on Mobile. If you don't understand the difference, I assume you don't understand the difference between macOS and NetBSD, or do you?

PostmarketOS (not even named that anymore) isn’t a serious os, nobody uses it. None of the Linux ones are. Yes I’m sure you’re reading this from w3m in the terminal on your pinephone.

Not GP, but I'm reading your comment on Firefox ESR on my daily driver, a Librem 5 running PureOS, another mobile Debian fork. The OS is maintained by paid contractors, funded by Purism hardware sales and donations from users.

What is your goalpost for a "serious OS"?

Market share that’s visible on a graph and usable by people who are not enthusiast nerds with a fetish for suffering

Each OS apparently comes with its own trade-offs, just look at the sheer amount of unhappiness expressed in this thread.

What market share proves is popularity. Which is important in an OS, but ridiculing other people's choices on grounds of market share doesn't seem very convincing to me.

> PostmarketOS (not even named that anymore) isn’t a serious os

Doesn't make you right. PostmarketOS and LineageOS are very much NOT the same OS in a different shirt.

Don't try to be provocative just because you were wrong, it doesn't help.

Postmarket is very much not like any other aosp derivative.

Well it's very much not an AOSP derivative in the first place :-). The parent doesn't seem to have a clue what those are.

On iPhones?

My point is that I think it should be illegal to use technical measures to prevent me from installing whatever I want on the device I own.

And that I disagree with all the whining about having root everywhere. If you are able to install your preferred OS on the device you own, then you can install one that has root, or fork an open source one and add root, or write your own.

HN has and always will be majority lil VC money funded tech bros who know nothing about actual hacking

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