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And yet you must learn the hand tool before you start using the power version.

I'd wager 70% of people driving cars on US roads can't change a tire or change their oil.

I don't think "must" is correct here.

People will use AI all they want without understanding it. Same as the way most people go through life never understanding how basic things work. Our capitalist fixation enables it because ignorant consumers will buy whatever is put in front of them for the most part. Ignorance is profit in capitalism.

Folks don't want to understand. That's work. Why bother?

They use completely different techniques. You do not need to learn how to use hand tools first, but most individuals are more likely to afford them.

Then again, you have the saftey factor. Some people should be given hand tools first, so you can see whether they can be trusted with power tools. Just as you would give a junior small tasks before trusting them with something bigger.

There's this funny thing. Pure hand tool workflow is probably far more expensive than a bare minimum power/machine tool setup. Eg a brace probably costs more than a corded drill today. I saw the so called frame saw kits are 300 dollars if you want a blade at all (and those kits are just a blade and some mild steel buckles and eye bolts). I think hand tools are the opposite of affordable today. Mass produced tools that have functional pressure for use by tradies are afforadable. Corded drills are affordable, hardpoint hand saws are affordable.

Uhh really? Here's an example, my first experience with gardening started off with a chainsaw. Needed to cut some trees/foliage, went out and bought a decent corded electric chainsaw and went to work. There were a few branches I couldn't get to since the cord was too short so I found an old handsaw and tried cutting it by hand. Gave up after 30 seconds and just got an extension cord. Why do I need to master hand tools?

What was the tpi and length and was it crosscut or ripcut? If its rip cut and or a high tpi or not sharpened then naturally one would struggle.

I can say one example of why you would need some hand tools. Buying an extension cord is easy, but you may not have the budget to buy a larger bandsaw. In that case having a handsaw or framesaw will save you.

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