Tell the slop bot it's wrong about something and it just starts berating you "get used to it!" "I'm the future!"
This is a real risk. The copyright washing machine is an average of our collective "spoken consciousness", and in turn it influences the way we express ourselves, then it ends up inside the next training slopdate. Real organic human reasoning will eventually be as valuable as low-alpha steel was for a long time, at least till the background levels drop. AI businesses are raiding libraries for "sunken knowledge", the similarity is uncanny.
People using AI are constantly showing off net new things to the world.
Antis are using the same arguments from 2022 and aren't showing us anything good or cool that they've done. They just complain.
Y'all need to do something worth talking about. This mindset you have is exhausting. Antis somehow find a way of entering every pro-AI conversation and breathing down our necks with hate and misery.
I don't like these bleak views and I don't want to interact with this kind of fist shaking and ground gazing while I'm trying to have a good time using all the new toys. This post was a celebration, and yet here we are again. Why even show up? What is so worth it to you to come in here and complain?
Let us reinvent the web. Let us cure cancer. And instead of chanting "slop" in every corner this is discussed, you can go to Matrix or Mastodon or live on a farm or cut the cords or something. Just don't dump on every single thing we do. You can sit this out on the sidelines.
This thread is about cool AI results - why are you even here? This is our celebration, not an open invitation to complain.
You know what people learn when they vibe code a decomp? How LLMs work.
If I come across a hacker news front page story, I want it to be something interesting about a topic. Seeing a topic I’m deeply familiar with actually be another vibe coding project is exhausting and click bait. I can’t learn anything more about what I was trying to learn about in the first place.
Publishing this on GitHub is actively harmful to the RE and decomp communities. Vibe coders don’t care and probably don’t even know. They haven’t talked to the EFF, read USPCO opinions on fair use, followed VGHF’s attempts to expand rights, or anything that will legally move the needle forward. They’re just dumping mountains of copyright infringement under terms previously associated with completely legal activity.
I've wanted to do this but had no time to learn this arcane science. Life is simply too short.
This is opening the world up to more people. You shouldn't be mad at them for coming into your hobby.
People want this. They shouldn't have to do it the way you bless or anoint.
Your perspective is like saying LLMs have had no impact on mathematicians. Or dirt bikes don’t have impact on hiking trails.
Electricity shut down hunting whales for oil, cars shut down horse whip makers, etc. That's just progress. Like shopping malls, Blockbuster, buffet restaurants -- everything has its time.
There are more games being decompiled now than ever before, and the leap in accessibility is tremendous. While this may dilute your community and its practices, and while it may look like an Eternal September, it is bringing orders of magnitude more people into the fold. And that's worth a lot more than you're giving it credit.
Math, science, bio, and certainly CS and software engineering are going to change. That's progress. Nothing should stay the same forever.
I'm happier to see the world morph into something exciting during my lifetime rather than have slow and modest progress up until I die. I feel a bit like the people who were born early enough to witness the Wright brothers and who ultimately lived to see people walk on the moon. I'm glad tech is doing something like that rather than just having decades of uninspiring incrementalism.
I'm sorry you don't share the same outlook, but I promise there's a silver lining in this if you look more closely.
People are going to get closer and closer to owning their technology. The value of code is plummeting, and that means that in time these claims over our software will erode to nothing.
I would focus your energy on making sure we have open weights parity with the foundation models. We need to have a seat at that table. That is the real threat to our freedom and future, not petty IP squabbles or software rights.
As far as I could tell, this project was legitimately offering rendering techniques not yet used in N64 to 3DS ports, and I felt this documentation might be helpful.
I actually do care very much and would like to actively avoid harming the community. Any sort of resources out there to educate myself further would be appreciated.
I do apologize however. I inferred from the repo that the decomp was done by LLM, but I’m glad to see it seems like an older, pre-LLM decomp.
I have mixed feelings about modern LLM implementations of older game SDKs, but generally support it. Though copyright and licensing there can be tricky as well. Caveat emptor.
It's not like we're insulting your work