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I immediately tried Circuits, because I have a lot of expertise here and realised it was expected: absolutely zero understanding of the product domain. It looks like an EDA package, it smells like an EDA package but an EDA package it ain't.

And I don't want to hear "it's alpha" and "it'll improve over time". The very foundation it is built on is a near zero understanding of the domain.

This is exactly the same as all the sudden Lightroom and Photoshop replacements.

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Turns out product design is a lot harder than "Make me a product. Don't make any mistakes."

Yes that.

I created schematic, pcb. Then exported Gerbers as zip and it passed and looks ok at jlcpcb. So it's usable.

I added one issue (allow to change default trace width) and we'll see how it goes. If they actually fix it, with maybe 30 another similar fixes it could be usable.

Update: they said wontfix, typical, just like human devs

it'll get better over time. Give it some time!

Why should I when there's KiCad on the market? Or even pay for Altium?

Put a usable product on the market from day one or don't bother. There's absolutely no proof you will deliver anything here. This is just slavery to an inferior promise in the name of progress.

I'm not patting this on the head and waiting and expecting it to grow up into a work dog.

makes sense. some people like this project and are waiting for it to get better. it's a free market, you can use whatever you like most.

> Put a usable product on the market from day one or don't bother.

Tall words for someone recommending KiCad.

KiCad does an ok job. This does not even do job.

KiCad day-one was probably not what you'd call a "usable" EDA suite either.

But it was an EDA suite, not an EDA suite shaped object.

I’m sure KiCad makes super smart mega pros get really angry and fling their feces, but it has done a ton of amazing work for unimportant people like me.

So… my sincere thanks to the people that made it. I’m glad you didn’t wait for universal approval.

I love KiCad. My point is that most people would hate KiCad 1.0 just the same as they'd hate Blender 1.0.

Critiquing early releases of FOSS is a "throwing stones from glass houses" sort of situation.

I see no evidence that you're committed to it getting better over time. Tell me again in a year or two when something you've made has actually gotten usable. Until then, build your credibility by making something good, not just making a sloppy copy.

Don't sloppy that copy!

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