Hacker News Reader

Yes, the "fourteen eyes" group. It used to be five (basically all the English speaking countries) but they coerced more European countries to join and now it's fourteen.

View on HN

The US _shares_ intel with the other Eyes, and within these there's layers of cooperation, with the US<->UK on top.

But this agreement concerns raw, non minimized, SIGINT (eg. direct tapping into feeds/traffic) mainly from US -> Israel.

That's pretty much what "intel sharing" is. They get other countries to spy on Americans and receive that data. In return they give their spy data on citizens of that country to that country.

I meant while the original five eyes are sharing raw sigint (we can also disagree on the level of sharing proportions), Israel gets also access to raw sigint intended as 3rd-country -> US.

The integration in the cyber domain is a different tier compared to the default the US has with other eyes.

Reply on news.ycombinator.com