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Brazil's Flavio Bolsonaro headed to US, sources say

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The most corrupt and coward family in the history of Brazilian politics: Bolsonaro Family

For anyone here who actually wants the facts on Flávio Bolsonaro's "nonsense charges":

The Willer Tomaz Money Laundering Probe: The Federal Police aren't going after him for his political opinions. He's tied to a massive money-laundering probe with lawyer Willer Tomaz, who moved R$ 5 billion through online betting sites (Blaze) and pulled out R$ 200 million. PF investigators found Flávio listed as a privileged "master" user on an offshore account belonging to Tomaz's firm (Alcazar Holdings), alongside another R$ 130M moving through shell accounts.

Rachadinha & Real Estate Laundering: Before the Senate, he spent years running a public-salary embezzlement scheme (rachadinha) in Rio through his fixer Fabrício Queiroz, laundering stacks of physical cash through a chocolate shop and shady real estate deals. He only got off because sympathetic judges threw out the financial evidence on a jurisdictional technicality.

Rio's Paramilitary Militias: Through that exact same cabinet scheme, Flávio put the mother and wife of Adriano da Nóbrega—head of the Escritório do Crime death squad—on the public payroll as ghost employees, and personally honored Nóbrega with Rio's highest medal from his prison cell.

https://cadeflavio.run/game.html

the link with game.html at the end sometimes fails, for reasons unknown to me. use the url without that.

I wonder what happens if the Dems win the White House in 2028. Will he be extradited back?

Why wait, without a passport he would be an Illegal Immigrant. We have enough crooks in the United States, we don't need to import more of them to take those jobs too!

He also has an Italian passport, so that probably won't be a hindrance.

Yeah but he’s actually a refugee fleeing political persecution, not an economic refugee. The US has and continues to support legitimate refugees

Yup, we have supported legitimate refugees since Paperclip.

Maybe he and Trump can flee to Russia?

His campaign provided him immunity from prosecution, but now that it's over, he is for some reason unwilling to answer for his crimes.

Something something unfair prosecution something something evil supreme court something

Nobody is even trying to claim that.

There are many people complaining that the supreme court should have said which of his crimes this is about, but his allies are not even trying to defend him.

Same "I don't want to go to prison" campaign-reason of Trump and Netanyahu. Both have running court trials that would put them in jail if they don't hold political offices.

BTW: very suspicious downvote activity going on, without real counter-arguments. I guess Netanyahu private-spy-industry bot machinery is again fully deployed at HN to suppress.

What are his crimes?

Money laundering through an associate and close friend, and foreign exchange evasion are the two main ones currently sitting on the Supreme Court.

Well, the most recent would be a conspiracy to fuck with public transit on election day, perhaps they could start with that, determine the degree of his culpability and involvement, and then keep going in reverse chronological order. Then they could go after corruption, the usual sort of stuff.

His dad's doing time for a coup and an attempted assassination, and his brother's been convicted of coercing the judiciary, by getting Trump to punish Brazil for his dad's conviction. It's a perfectly normal sort of family, this stuff could have happened to anyone.

And this man got 48% of the votes. How the hell do these criminals keep fooling so many people? Oh yea, the likes of Meta are doing their bidding. Musk, Zuckerberg & Co. should be charged for meddling in all these elections (Brazil, USA, Germany...)

I'm coughing, not saying evangelicalism

It’s interesting that it just happens to be after losing an election that all sorts of accusations get made. This sounds more like abuse of power by the winners than a crime but let’s see how it plays out.

As opposed to Trump, who actually won an election after an attempted coup?

I'm sure the list wasn't intended to be exhaustive

Because Lula isn't much better. He wears the "leader of the poor" mantle well enough, but he's made plenty of money himself using his position.

That said, the Bolsonaro's lost me the second Jair made the comment about just casually culling 30k indigenous lives like it's no big deal. I'll take greed over blood

> but he's made plenty of money himself using his position.

proof?

There is a gradient of corruption. 'Some' Corruption does not equal = Full on Corruption & Dictatorship goals, which suppresses the opposition and freedom of speech and kills people in broad daylight.

Some corruption you could argue always existed, e.g. military-industrial complex Eisenhower(!) already warned against in his farewell address as President 60 years ago [0].

While that sort of corruption has certainly spread and is the root of what makes people's life miserable, the same forces turn the people's anger around via propaganda and their Social Media CEO henchmen to vote for fascists/authoritarians blaming scapegoats - which, if they come into power, leads to only support even more corruption and degradation. Same trajectory as pre-WW2 - hopefully this time we will make the necessary root-cause adjustments before the world population has to suffer for the greed of a very few.

[0] https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/president-dwigh...

Yesterday he said[0], in free translation: "I never considered leaving the country. I will surrender my passports and defend myself against this outrage, which is a clear attempt to intimidate me."

A full-on liar.

0: https://archive.is/d032W#selection-3213.113-3213.279

"I did not leave the country, for Brazil is always in my heart. I will surrender my passports. One day. After I am finished defending myself against this outrage."

Slither slither

that's not what he said. unless this reputable source is misquoting, which is not at all common. it's also not implied.

Well, he'll get a sympathetic reception - Trump has already called the election rigged, and is refusing to recognise Lula.

I wouldn't be surprised if there are marines and/or mercs on the eixo monumental in November. Trump will need another war/conflict/invasion/occupation, sorry, special military operation, to distract from the midterm losses, and nabbing Maduro played well in Peoria.

> I wouldn't be surprised if there are marines and/or mercs on the eixo monumental in November.

Unlikely methinks. I think next on Rubio's docket is Cuba. Brazil is a much harder sell dude to the sheer size and population of the country. Not to mention China would have a huge problem with it due to them having as many fingers in Brazilian pies as the US does.

That's not going to happen, Lula has the popular vote. Even remotely comparing him with Maduro is foolish. If US did something, they would be stepping out of the shadows. That would legit cause a political crisis.

So you're saying it will happen for sure then... bummer.

Has the USA ever shied away from causing a political crisis?

If he wants to start a war with Brazil, do you think he will win the one with Iran, first?

He doesn't think that far ahead. He'll be like "we'll grab Lula and install our guy", without thinking about what happens the next day.

More likely to bring the Iran war back to save Bibi from an election that could see him removed from power. Bibi tried recently, but Trump said no (more likely wait until after US midterms)

I believe polls have now closed

In Israel? No, polls close at 20:00 UTC, which is almost two hours from now.

We have a bilateral extradition treaty with Brazil right? So if they charge him and ask for him back the USA should return him?

Brazilian supreme court has made extradition requests to the US after they granted asylum to journalists critical of the court and its judges. All such requests were denied, even though Biden was in power.

What a coward.

Seems like the current US admin is the only place authoritarian Fascists trying to avoid punishments for their deeds can still escape to ... Hopefully today another certain is-really PM will be coming in as well ... safe place ... until November.

Depends on who you're aligned with; Moscow is an option for many as well.

> Depends on who you're aligned with

Trump or Putin? Is there a difference?

It appears that if you cross Putin you "fall out of a window" whereas the people in his own country Trump doesn't like just get legal annoyance.

That's not great, and nobody should pretend it is - but I'd rather be imprisoned for what I believe than thrown out of a window.

> Trump doesn't like just get legal annoyance.

Until now you mean ... the windows are approaching fast. Let's not forget that his henchmen are already killing unarmed civilians in the streets.

Yeah. Putin and Lula are strong allies. And suddenly the people who spent the last ten years shrieking about TrumPutin have nothing to say about Lula's attempt to push Brazil into the Russian/Chinese/Iranian power bloc.

> people who spent the last ten years shrieking about TrumPutin have nothing to say about Lula's attempt to push Brazil into the Russian/Chinese/Iranian power bloc.

So now you are the one shrieking? Or what is the point of your comment?

> “I highly doubt that Russia, China, or the United States possess an army as victorious as the army of democracy in this country,” Lula said, thanking the voters.[1]

These sound like the words of a real strong ally for sure.

[1]https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/10/26/brazil-election-20...

Bolsonaro is Trump's man, Lula is Putin's

Guess that's their final destination if Trumpo losses in November and will be forced with the rest of the coward-criminals to face their crimes.

PS: I hear Thiel has already bought a large estate in Argentina (yeah, where those WW2 war-criminals also escaped to) in case their fascist government wet-dream doesn't come to be.

"A senior Federal Police official said Bolsonaro had not exited the country via any regular migration point."

Migration rules are for the poor. Rich people immigrate via private jets or yachts, which are not controlled in any way.

Another criminal immigrant coming to the US.

What else is expected? When the sitting president is a convicted felon? .. Has US ever punished any criminal politicians ?

Very innocent behavior /s

USA is a corrupt nation. CIA fiances coup around the world and the Government shelter these clowns. They accuse others of what they themselves do. The Oligarchy and Technocracy of the Tech Bros and other less contained super riches of the war insdustry.

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