People on the earlier internet - I was and still am one of them - did not so much share political views but were far less likely to consider those with different views not worth speaking to. We could speak about other subjects without needing to inject politics into everything, we could take others' opinions for what they were without needing to taint them with some political slur because he happened to vote for a different party or faction. We could actually make fun of those things and did not as a rule throw slurs and attach labels at those of a different view, at least not in anger.
Alas, how things have changed...
[1] https://www.marxists.org/history/erol/ncm-3/iwk-party-buildi...
[2] https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/...
No, that 'everything is political' line is a marxist trope
We [...] did not as a rule throw slurs and attach labels at those of a different view
You've contradicted yourself. Not just here though, your comment history is full of prejudiced ad-hominem:> Comrade Knee-Jerk, what did you do for the cause today? Answer me! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49789968
> you'll notice a bunch of useful idiots calling themselves the 'Democatic Socialists of America' https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50166926
> some activist group doing something stupid https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49710719
You have a repeat history of attaching labels to people who have a different view from yourself. It is also bizarrely obsessed with socialism on unrelated topics, which probably explains why your "political" commentary is being flagged. You should consider discussing politics without these kinds of labels if you want people to reply in good faith.
Then to the rest:
The first line you quote - Comrade Knee-Jerk - is satire so that is in a different category.
The second is a good example, "useful idiots" of the "DSA" which in my opinion they absolutely are but you're right in calling me out, guilty as charged. They're still useful idiots though...
The third line isn't an example of me labelling anyone, there's no label there.
Let's take a gander at your rather prolific commenting habits, just to see what you're up to:
Their submission history is reminiscent of other motivated accounts that dilute the website's intellectual curiosity with zero-sum editorials. It's certainly deliberate, and their comment history seems to defend the submissions rather than conceding their obvious low quality.
No, you are willfully misinterpreting the purpose of their project and suggesting completely unrelated, insane and unrealistic remediation.
I stopped after two pages. Maybe you need to check the guidelines once more, especially those sections regarding astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents, and the like (first comment) and respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith (second comment).
Now that we've both taken apart each other's commenting histories maybe we can go back to the regular program, post and comment about things we're interested in and try to keep the politicking at bay? It has been made much harder by the way the don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle rule is applied but we can still try. Just assume that the person on the other side of the screen might not agree with you whom to vote for but otherwise has many of the same interests. That does not make him or her evil and it does not mean his or her opinion on unrelated subjects is not worth considering.
If you think it is relevant, sane and realistic to tell an Apple developer to buy an ARM ISA license, then you should take a moment to look up what it costs.
> Now that we've both taken apart each other's commenting histories
I don't care if you read my comment history. Your original statement is an obvious lie, contradicted in both your original comment and your history of commenting. You do use labels as a pejorative debate strategy, and you admit it in your reply to my comment.
Just stop doing it. Reading your comment history as a lifelong American citizen was a cringe-fest. We don't talk to each-other like this, and nobody should engage with politics in this way that neglects human dignity and refuses to foster intellectual gratification.
This is a discussion site, not a karma/likes farm. There are sure to be many others here who do not agree with the described narrative but who keep silent or, at most, create throwaway accounts to say something they know they will be 'punished' for. I think this is the wrong way to go so I just use my regular account even if that means I have to deal with people like you who call dissenters 'trolls' or worse, down-vote or flag in attempts to get dissent out of view. So be it, accounts are cheap.