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In what regard are they falling behind? There are lighter laptops, sure. Are there lighter laptops with the same performance, or the same battery, the same ergonomics, the same build quality, or the same screen quality?

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Gaming laptops they've never competed at all. Windows laptops offer far more form factors with easily upgradeable hardware. One of the only places Apple has an advantage is their chipsets. However, Qualcomm’s Snapdragon X chips have significantly closed the gap on Apple's ARM based M-chips.

I just got a 16" MacBook Pro with an M5 pro chipset and its total pig compared to my 15.6" HP ZBook Power G8.

The only area I can see where Apple is still holding their own is their UI/UX has always been buttery smooth compared to Windows or Linux. Not a fan the new liquid glass, but its still a very smooth running UI regardless.

What build quality? You must be joking. My M3 Pro is at the service center as of this moment for touch ID replacement. Because, apparently the quality of the harness is so bad it gives up in under 2 years of ownership - google it, it's a known issue. Next, the cheap ass 5V regulator fries if you actually try to as much as use a phone connected to it for long periods. This was a known issue across multiple generations. This is a tech forum, ass kissing a giant corporation that doesn't care about you should be the last thing one would expect to read here.

In the OLED regard. Other laptops had this for a decade now.

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