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Not sure how I feel about this but I am sure about one thing

There should never ever be a masked police force in this country, it's disgusting

Think about all the things we've written off in the past two years and faded from the news

Like military helicopters landing on a city building and them blowing the doors off all the apartments dragging everyone from their apartments

And all bets are off for the next two years, looks like Dems will get the Senate but even then they can't stop the scorched-earth that is coming

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Remember when these people had issues wearing masks (Covid). Now all of a sudden its not a problem.

I am not so sure people started saying "this is fine"

more like he started 1000 other fires, several each week if not a new one each day to make far worse problems

It's not just the most corrupt administration, it's the most chaos and definitely by design

btw all investigations dropped for the execution of two citizens, I mean that's definitely not fine with anyone, just way too many other problems going on now at the same time

well there's no statute of limitations on murder at least, so 800 more days

> well there's no statute of limitations on murder at least, so 800 more days

This assumes The Other Side will do anything if they do get into power. My prediction: A milquetoast moderate leads the (D)'s and declares: "In the interest of unity and moving forward, we will not go after anyone in the previous administration. Let us all hold hands and get past this with minimal drama... They have pinkey promised they will never behave this way again when they get to power, and we believe them."

The Democratic base is way too angry for that to fly this time. If Jeffries tries it he'll be removed as speaker.

Democratic politicians are the ones that could remove the speaker, not voters.

Part of the problem is that the justice system is as slow as molasses. They tried to hold him accountable for things he did in his first term and four years wasn’t long enough.

Eh, owning the supreme court helps a lot. It moves pretty quickly when it needs to protect trump.

> They tried to hold him accountable for things he did in his first term and four years wasn’t long enough

This was mostly Merrick Garland being a muppet.

That's being too kind. He intentionally slow-walked it. J6 was an attempted insurrection and there was no doubt about it.

It feels more like a reverse psyop, like “look we are wearing masks now, isn’t this what you wanted”?

As long as the sides keep reducing common ground, the farther away from government for the people, by the people we go.

Again, let's think of two children fighting over their shares of a cookie. Child A says he should get all of the cookie. Child B says that wouldn't be fair, the cookie should be split evenly, half and half.

The adult in the room decides to promote common ground, and gives 75% of the cookie to A and 25% to B.

who exactly is the adult in the room supposed to be in this analogy? There _is_ no adult in the room, just the two children.

The adult in the room here is the moralizing "enlightened centrist" that puts bothsideism in every conversation about politics.

Tell me more about how "the sides" are reducing "common ground"?

It seems to me that both parties are finding fewer things to agree upon, while thinking negatively of the opposition and positively of their own. It’s become more of a “my team” thing, and the policies are good if we do it and bad if the others do. Of course one party is far more authoritarian than others and the choice is clear to some, but given political engagement in this country I see more disagreement than agreement when it comes to deciding on policies for the common good.

[1] https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/06/25/americans...

[2] https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2026/05/01/americans-co...

It's wrong when they feel like it infringes on them, it's okay when it empowers and emboldens them to cause harm to others without repercussions.

>Like military helicopters landing on a city building and them blowing the doors off all the apartments dragging everyone from their apartments

I don't know what this is referencing

Edit: what the fuck https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/helicopters-tear-gas-b...

"On Friday, agents dispersed tear gas in the middle of a busy city street. Chicagoans were hit with chemical agents while walking their children home from school. A couple ran from tear gas with a 2-year-old child in their care," Johnson told reporters Monday.

There's going to be massive trials over the next few years. So many people are going to have accountability catch back up to them. Maybe not the ultra rich but all these ICE goons shooting people on the street will be held accountable.

I Want to Believe

They’re already starting state level charges against some of them. There’s definitely accountability coming.

The big politicians and ultra rich will probably flee the country, but the random no name DOGE and ICE criminals won't have that luxury.

They're all going to eat each other's faces.

I want whatever drugs you’re on.

Anytime I see one I can’t shake off the feeling I got when I first saw Watchmen. I thought “this is so dystopian and bizarre; so out there”. Didn’t have this in my bingo card for the decade.

No identity: no authority.

The Senate can hold people in contempt with a 50% vote. So they could do something to reign in the fascists starting January, but I'm not holding my breath. And that's still a long road.

Senate has no mechanism to prosecute contempt charges

That goes to the DOJ, which of course means nothing happens, at least for next 800 days

It's my understanding they can detain under the inherent contempt power, it's been reported [0] that the House has a jail that can be readied if needed.

[0] https://rollcall.com/2019/05/08/just-where-is-this-secret-ho...

They would need to lure them into the building. They don’t have people to send out all over the country to find and grab someone.

That opens a can of worms that you're never going to close.

Maybe this is such an emergency that it's worth the risk. But the risk is extremely high; if you do it to them, even with the best of reasons, they are going to do it back to you for any reason they can think of.

Hence why it is important to be thorough.

Plus they will do it anyway. There is no shame or honor regulating their behavior.

Accountability is what was missed last time and is the only way forward.

Good! Both sides should be prosecuting each other over violating the constitution.

Hey remember when we had a 2 (plus?) Year trial over whether or not the president had sex with someone other than his wife? Something about family values or morality or whatever they said at the time?

What’s your point?

God I am tired of this argument.

What you're saying is that "we" shouldn't enforce the law because "they" will break the law in response.

Aside from being inherently morally bankrupt, they'rw already breaking the law.

"They" are currently trying to deport Ilhan Omar, a sitting Democratic senator. Donald Trump has repeatedly stated that he's illegally running in the 2028 Presidential election. How much more open can a can of worms be?

They also tried to indict several democratic US senators for reiterating that it is okay to refuse illegal orders.

Many will say that they wouldn’t need to protect their safety and privacy if they werent doing something wrong.

But in terms of if its ever appropriate for law enforcement to wear masks, isnt the question if its ever possible to threaten a law enforcement officers safety who isnt doing something wrong?

The FEDs wear masks in cartel operations all the time and that seems fine.

I'm not really sure what your getting at. The entire reason that masked LEs are opposed is because (1) it makes it impossible to hold them to account and (2) it makes it trivial to impersonate any LE (ICE hasn't exactly tried all that hard to make special gear for themselves, just buying what's on EBay and similar, so literally anyone could just buy the same gear they're using and impersonate an ICE officer, and since ICE doesn't like identifying themselves, you would have no immediate way of distinguishing between a random citizen who wants to ruff you up or murder you versus a LEO)

Yup. This is not okay. It should be illegal. Maybe it is, IANAL. This person didn't know whether she was getting arrested or kidnapped or why. On top of which this is unnecessary brutality on the face of it. This needs to stop.

https://kotaku.com/umamusume-pretty-derby-cosplay-clara-tan-...

> As she hits the sidewalk, Tan hears what she describes as “a godawful crack” come from her foot, and then realizes she’s being cuffed behind her back. “I’m being kidnapped and I have no idea who these men are,” Tan writes. She’s dragged to an unmarked SUV, thrown in the back, and claims to have heard one of the men say, “This could all have been avoided if you’d just come quietly.”

They don’t have a right to privacy when they’re at work. The Supreme Court has said it is legal to film officers, including their faces, while carrying out their duties.

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