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Trump admin, to their credit, seem to have somehow figured this out.

They bailed out Intel and the stock recovered.

Might do the same.

Bad new for you, their stock fell -29% today, the largest collapse since the 70s. It's nearly back to last years' level.

It did the temporary job. INTC is doing the work. Things take time.

So the bailout was a complete waste of money? Why couldn't they have done the work before and we just waited?

The bailout was a year ago.

It takes forever to do anything new in hardware.

This is unfortunately a VERY long game.

I think you are presenting this as true, but all the evidence points to the bailout as having no effect. You aren't presenting any counter evidence other than just saying it worked and to wait.

What could someone say that would convince you the bailout is working as intended.

An article that was the exact opposite of this one https://www.cnbc.com/2026/10/30/amazon-intel-earnings-big-te...

So nothing specific. Gotcha.

An article that is the exact opposite of an announcement they've had their worst day on the market in over fifty years is far more specific than "Trust me it worked"

Bruh. You are not being specific. I was being specific.

The stock price recovered. This is a fact. From 20 to 60.

Cannot be argued.

The business will take time to recover. There is no other way. Either it takes time to recover, or it never does. One year is not remotely enough time to know.

You didn't read the article, this thread is pointless

I'm not reading an article to infer whatever point you're making. Either make your point, or admit that you are just being contrarian because you hate Drumpf

We've already established you do not read

So your entire argument is to be smarmy and condescending and refrain from being specific because you have no actual argument.

I think you may be confusing the (temporary) improved stock price with improved/recovered profitability? I see the (temporary) stock price recovery, as driven PURELY by valuation, i.e. an increase in P/E (instead of EPS).

Intel’s revenue is currently worse than 10 years ago, and gross profits are 2/3 of what they were around 2012.

The temporary price hike was caused by a huge temporary jump in relative valuation (probably because the US Gov started subsidizing).

See the historical graphs:

- https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/INTC/intel/pe-rati...

- https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/INTC/intel/revenue

- https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/INTC/intel/gross-p...

Well yes, that's why they need the bailout. They are getting smoked.

Big companies are like big ships. Takes a LONG time to turn.

Game is not over yet.

I was commenting on this though

> They bailed out Intel and the stock recovered.

I don’t think the stock (or the company) has recovered at all. Neither profits nor revenue (see my links above).

But hey, who knows what the future brings.

The bailout was in Aug 25 when INTC was < $25.

It closed today above $60.

That's a stock recovery.

I was very specific. I said stock. That's a recovery.

Sure, the stock price is up.

Currently trading at 3-4x historical valuation (20y typical range of forward P/E).

Again. Very specifically said the stock recovered. That's a positie.

> Trump admin, to their credit, seem to have somehow figured this out.

> They bailed out Intel and the stock recovered.

This is not demonstrated. What did the Trump admin "figure out"? Socializing private losses (especially if it's only temporary), is another problem, not a solution.

> What did the Trump admin "figure out"?

How to abuse their position to stuff insane amounts of money into their own pockets at the expensive of the American people and get away with it.

In my dreams Trump is revealed as a Chinese agent and gets a parade in Beijing.

I've heard theories that he's an agent working for Russia and while I doubt he's some kind of spy it's difficult to imagine an enemy doing a better job than what's he's accomplished. He's repeatedly leaked classified information (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump's_disclosures_of_...). He has physically destroyed the white house. He broke up or crippled the agencies we depend on. He has weakened our military by forcing out top US military officers, depleting U.S. munitions stockpiles, and draining their budgets. He's tanked our economy. He's decreased our freedoms and weakened our very democracy. He's sold off our national parks and public lands. He's isolated us from our allies.

Our enemies should be throwing him parades even if he isn't a foreign agent. He's the gift that just keeps on giving.

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