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> All of them modern "we keep your content safe" players

But they weren’t and probably aren’t and won’t be. They just put forth an image as much as needed to sell.

It would seem Google account details have been compromised or otherwise correlated, with not a peep from Google, we are getting reports of scam calls to people's real phone numbers about the "business opportunity" available in their attached Youtube properties.

Another possibility is advertising shadow profiles are able to correlate logged in accounts across YouTube and other properties.

Is this the point where most tech people accept that anything a closed source Software company says about security is effectively a "Trust me bro" as long as it is not backed up by independent verification?

We love to talk rubbish about finance bros but that industry has had independent auditing as part of its DNA for a century[1]

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarbanes%E2%80%93Oxley_Act

I am unclear why you linked to a 20yo law that was enacted a few years before we found that the entire sector was floating on loans to people with fake information.

Im not an expert in legislature but I attemted to provide the most recent and hopefully directly recognizable entry point to 100+ years of continuous legislature. Sarbanes Oxley is more or less a refinement of all its predecessors.

It will start working when majority of folks here on HN will stop being so uncritical to apple and consider this very topic in way you suggest, ie by yearly independent public audit of whole trail related to security. Not the most important topic probably but a great litmus paper for crowd thinking.

Far from only such company but the pass apple gets probably the biggest globally, its so emotional and thus I cannot take it seriously.

Still waiting for that glorious day.

I agree. But I do have to admit that at least in the narrow scope of high level security compromises I draw a blank when it comes to apple. If I missed a headline of apple getting seriously owned then that leniency towards Apple is completely misplaced. If there really wasn't then I guess "look it works" line of argumentation probably is a powerful framing.

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