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Same. I'm in the plus plan, the chat and codex/work are decoupled there and I basically never use the latter. I'll keep my subscription until the merge happens and I'll jump ship (where, tho?) if it severely limits my usage. At least it seems like "instant" is going to stay unlimited.

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Definitely have to recommend putting $10 in openrouter and try deepseek 4.1 flash. I can’t believe how far I’ve gone with only spending like $0.70 so far on credits

I can use DS and others through my Kagi sub. The thing about ChatGPT was the integrated environment/memory and the ability to create artifacts, which make it very useful for my job (teaching /researching). I don't use llms for coding, nor for agentic stuff.

> Definitely have to recommend putting $10 in openrouter and try deepseek 4.1 flash.

I'm pleasantly surprised by grok models.

We use cursor at work and i'm at the $20/month plan.

I used to mostly use Gpt, composer and occasionally opus. But this month i maxed these models quota and I've been working with Grok 4.7 essentially non stop for the last two weeks.

Grok is fairly verbose and somewhat slower but in the end it does get the job done. I've done a surprising amount of work (planning, implementing, tool usage, analysis) on the base plan.

Giving money to Musk, tho... I'm not saying anybody shouldn't... I'm saying I'm not going to.

i don't really care, frankly.

That's fair, as I said.

Why say anything then?

Sharing of opinion obviously, which is a purpose of this platform. Is this only valid if a poster also condemns all other views?

OP is not even demanding others to adopt it, so I don't see why it rubs people like this.

Deepseek is truly a dumdum model if you move your full work into it.

For small evaluation ds is impressive.

When looking at the performance / price graph of artificial analysis, we can see that deepseek doesn't seem to have a better profile, just notably worse and slightly cheaper models, so in the future a chatgpt user will be better serve with switching to Luna or Terra that have better profile than deepseek.

Honestly not my experience. I can’t just send it off to blindly work on a feature and expect quite the same level of correctness as Claude, but I’m also not trying to use it like that.

If you want to plan out features then use agents to implement them in small chunks, deepseek has been comparable to Sonnet 5.5.

But this is just early stages for me, I was fully using Claude models for a while and decided to switch after getting annoyed buying extra credits for personal projects.. I was like “eh I’ll just throw a few bucks in openrouter and see how it is this time” and it’s been so much cheaper than buying Claude api credits when my subscription is out

It uses tools in my custom harness about as well as Claude models and makes edits to files doing specific things about as well as I’d want.

Question from a noob who’s never used openrouter: how do you actually do stuff with it other than chatting? Their website says it’s a unified interface for every model, but then they show a list of “most popular agents” (not models) that include things like “Codex” and “Claude Code”. Which implies I’m using openrouter to access other agents/harnesses, not just models. At which point what is openrouter doing for me?

I’d naively expect openrouter to be a thing that ships with its own agent/harness and lets you pick the model that requests are sent to. But the website implies that’s not what’s happening.

It can create API tokens that you can put in various harnesses. It's basically just an easy way to buy any model you want with one payment.

The APIs are essentially standardized. You just need to look up how to add another provider to whatever harness you're using. It's a similar thing when you want to try and use local models.

If you search for open source harnesses there are lots of them - I built my own with Claude and have been adding features now with a mix of Claude & Deepseek. It’s still just private for now but you can find others out there! Then you just give it an api key from openrouter and pick a model

Fine tuned DS4F is available from Particle.ai, same price but 20-50% more token efficient: https://openrouter.ai/particle-ai/particle-1

> the chat and codex/work are decoupled there and I basically never use the latter.

How does the merge impact you then?

Because I'm going to have metered chat instead of "unlimited".

Oh I had just assumed this was 2 limits merged into a single limit. I didn't realize the "chat" usage had been unlimited. Thanks

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