Net worth for people aged 30–33 in the U.S.
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Boise, Portland, rural Kentucky, Central PA, one dude in Michigan, etc.
great deal until (most of them) lost their jobs or had spouses that lost jobs.
a few ran into culture shock they couldn't get past. my friends in Idaho got a shock, lol.
Kentucky dude is still there, tho. visited him, PITA to get there. great property, and thankfully he can still pull remote gigs.
You have to be a certain kind of unlucky to consider Portland LCOL. And probably most west coast people aren't going to find much culture shock in Portland, at least. Idaho for sure, though.
The financially optimal move is to make your money in a HCOL area and then move to a LCOL area
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4611-Esper-Ln-324-Austin-...
I'm somewhat familiar with the area as I like to go to events at Circuit of the Americas often.
It's out there. There's really not much close nearby other than more houses. It's not like there's a lot of outdoorsy stuff, almost all the land around there is owned by private entities, almost no public park lands so it doesn't even have the "but at least there's nature!" aspect to it.
Expect at least half an hour drive each way to go to anything "Austin", in good traffic.
But, I do have to hand it to Austin, a part of why it's cheap is because of their aggressive construction.
So much traffic and nonsense to deal with in Texas. Its not worth living there, lol.
There are many cities that people consider to be "top-tier" that have much worse traffic than Austin
https://www.usnews.com/news/cities/articles/10-cities-with-t...
A lot of those cities have half-way decent public transit so you kind of have the option to not deal with traffic, but yeah. Having lived in both cities, traffic in Austin doesn't hold a candle to traffic in Boston
The fact that it has a yard at all is something. Countless people never have one in their lives. Plus it’s a perk not a necessity.
Having this house over an apartment is great but an apartment downtown will cost you more than your mortgage here.
It might be worth just downloading the data from the Fed yourself and having the coding harness of your choice build whatever data visualization you want:
I'm not exactly sure what's going to happen in the future, but I'm sure that it's going to be wildly different from the current status quo in a number of countries.
This is how the two party system evolved to sustain the status quo. When people are mad about something, divide the people into two parties and have them each demand a different solution while demonizing the solution of the other party, so that their votes cancel out and then nothing changes.
Extra points if you can get them to demand something unnecessarily polarizing, disproportionate or simplistic when there are better solutions available, because then you can get them to fight against the moderates too.
Notice also that when you point this out to a partisan, they have a tendency to violently agree and then immediately mischaracterize the problem as being that the other party is bad and wrong and the solution is to have everybody do their party's thing.
Both sides are victims, fueled by endless excuses and reasons why the others are responsible. Dems and repubs both do it in various ways and because its mostly "vibes and energies" nobody is really wrong.
We're a vibes and hype culture that refuses to hold itself accountable. It isn't about fixing anything, its become about telling people they're not responsible. Its nobodies fault except the others, they did it.
The American Revolution wasn't radical change from the British system, but thoughtful improvements on it. The French Revolution, and the Communist revolutions were all disasters. The slave revolt in Haiti has produced long-term poor results compared to the Dominican Republic. The American occupation of Japan is arguable, but given that they kept the emperor and one party was in power for the next 50+ years just like before, I have some doubts.
Power rarely voluntarily relinquishes power.
> I can't think of an instance where it worked well.
Worked pretty well for most of the ex Warsaw pact.
> The French Revolution, and the Communist revolutions were all disasters.
What came prior was also a disaster, except it was a disaster for regular people and the unelected Monarchs didn't feel the pain.
What exactly were people supposed to do? Wait patiently for their autocratic rulers to stop acting like autocrats?
> The slave revolt in Haiti has produced long-term poor results compared to the Dominican Republic.
This shows a complete ignorance of historical fact. French Haiti was 90% enslaved, Spanish Santo Domingo was majority free people. It simply isn't a comparable situation.
Again, what were Haitians supposed to do? Sit around being beaten, raped, and worked to death hoping that the slaveowners eventually see the error of their ways?
And I'm not even sure where the part is on the site detailing this '23% fall' mentioned in the title is. Cause there certainly isn't any historical data provided on the page...
That's $7k per year, which they have to save from the surplus after paying their rents, groceries, healthcare, university debts and everything else.
The US Census Bureau says 49.2% of adults 30-34 are homeowners in the US, so clearly many people are figuring out how to save and invest.
Down similarly to literally every other age group and still up from 2014.
Please get off social media.
These aren't even hard numbers to find: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/RHORUSQ156N
Good god.
I got pretty lucky with one of the (EdTech) startups I was early employee at giving me shares and it grew from nothing to over 1 million active paid subscriptions. Also, I joined a crypto project which rose to $4 billion valuation (joined at like $300 million valuation) but I was only able to get about $30k out of that in spite of hard hustling and leading one of the most important teams. Literally I put pressure on them to get a raise for 1 year and eventually had to quit to show I was serious.
I self-taught myself coding at 14 and have been working non-stop including nights and weekends and saving everything I could.
My net worth now is only $80k liquid at 36 years old. $130k if you include my illiquid retirement fund. So to me, $70k at 33 on a median income looks incredible. I'm not based in the US though. Maybe it's easier over there.
And I say only because it's a lot of money, and it's not a lot of money... if you have to pay rent, or mortgage payments, or car payments... car will be reposesed, credit score will go south really fast, and everything is tied to the credit score, so they know how low they can drop the ball and you will still accept because you are in need.
I want you to remember, the american dream... one person working as a mail man can bring food to the table, pay the mortgage while the wife raise the kids and kids go to school, you retire 40 years later with social security giving you enough for the basics...
Then this is for someone with university debt... so this is the case for someone with a title... what's the situation for the other unlucky 95% of america?
https://xxcancel.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1641799707583299587
Easy to get the best of both worlds by simply living in the US and not making poor life choices
I doubt most of Western Europe would agree with you. They seem to feel a lot happier and healthier. They have better social mobility, and less household debt.
I don't think the problem is growing expectations. Being able to own a home and affordably raise a family are extremely old expectations. If anything, people seem to be forced into compromising more and more.
> They seem to feel a lot happier and healthier.
On average I would agree. I didn't see extreme poverty like I saw in the US and cost of living is a lot better when you consider that quality of everything is higher; especially in terms of food.
> They have better social mobility,
My experience is that this is not the case. Germany had almost no mobility at all. Even startups are structured in such a way that you can barely even see the CEO, let alone talk to them and society is structured to protect incumbents through regulations and bureaucracy. The only people who get rich in such system (like in Crypto sector) are extremely crony. Feels like they have some really weird agenda. The whole country feels like a giant money laundering scheme.
As for France; the salaries for software engineers were really low last time I checked. Might as well drive an Uber.
If you look at international poverty stats, the fraction of the US living on $30 per day or less is almost identical to Sweden
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/poverty-share-on-less-tha...
If you change the threshold to $4.20 per day or less, US poverty is relatively high by European standards, but not a dramatic outlier (less than 2x that of Sweden). Almost 99% of the US population is still above this threshold.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/share-living-with-less-th...
My theory is that poverty in the US tends to be more urbanized, so people see it more. Wealthy Europeans live in the city center; wealthy Americans tend to move to the suburbs.
Also, a lot of people from Hacker News will visit San Francisco, which is basically considered to be a joke by the rest of the country.
USAFacts says 0.22% of the US population is homeless:
https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-homeless-people-are-i...
I hypothesize that it matters a lot for visibility where the homeless people are residing.
My opinion as an American is that excessive complaining is one of our country's biggest problems. Generally speaking, things are going fine in this country, except the bit where we're developing AI that's gonna kill everybody.
American households consume by far the most in the world on average: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_household...
https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2025/median-weekly-earnings-by-...
THEN it will go quite far
quite far to teach you you have been played out of your youth and now you are poor
One of the best aspects of “youth” is your health to be fair which can often be enjoyed cheaply - I.e. gyms/ hiking / healthy food doesn’t require a ton of lifestyle creep.
But I don't see data for 2022 on the page? I searched for "2022" and found nothing?
What makes it odd to me is that real median incomes for both individuals and households rose 6.2% over that period. That includes all people, but what I can find specifically on younger people is even more optimistic.
https://fortune.com/2026/09/22/gen-z-wealth-income-vs-boomer...
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/mehoinusa672n# https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEPAINUSA672N
Edit: someone linked the data below. Seems like 2022 was an outlier. All numbers in 2025 dollars. 2019 17.8k 2022 42.7k 2025 32.8k
So from 2019 to 2025, median net wealth for people under 35 increased by 84%.
https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/scf/dataviz/scf/chart...
Now, if you add my partner, we could add another 1,500 square feet to the living space, you know, because of "stuff," and then we'd need to double the garage size for her art studio and project space.
And that doesn't include the space we use for a berry garden, fruit trees, and vegetables.
Another way to look at it is, do you live for experiences or do you live for building things? Are you a consumer or are you a maker?
I come from a family of makers at least as far back as my grandparents and our tools and using them gave our lives meaning.
These differences in experience and perspective alter the balance of need versus want.
https://www.npr.org/2026/04/04/nx-s1-5760948/high-housing-co...
https://eyeonhousing.org/2025/04/house-sharing-is-not-just-f...
The pandemic created a ton of wealth for whomever would've had the most money in the market at that time and the most stability, to the point where there's basically no chance anyone else reaching those same ages after the pandemic could catch up without some miracle. Ya it's still better in real dollars than 2019 by a significant amount, but it would need to be even more significant for it to be optimistic, imo.
Edit: Looking at the The Fed chart you posted a bit further, there hasn't been a similar relative drop in any other 3 year period from 1989 onward. The closest period overall would be 2004-2010, and secondly 1995-1998. That's... pretty dramatic
But this site looks like GPT made it, doesn't it? I can see GPT's characteristic green button UI and beige color scheme. GPT 6.1 tends to use a green-toned UI.
no, not really
What I mean by an emerging industry is one that requires little capital and has few entrenched players—in the end, an industry where new entrants can compete with small initial capital. That's how I'd redefine it.
Because in the IT boom era, there were many technological opportunities. The boss who hired me was one example. But in the case of industrial robot manufacturing, the existing hardware supply chain is, by and large, the one investing.
In the end, what I want to say comes down to this: there are fewer industries open to new entrants.
Because in the IT boom and the construction boom, there were markets that needed less capital than you'd think in the early days. In subcontracting, for instance, you could enter with relatively little capital. But in today's technologically advanced industries, initial capital requirements are far higher. So in the past, even within the same category of industry, there clearly existed sub-markets you could participate in with comparatively little initial capital.
For example, in the old IT industry, my seniors 20 years ago said it took surprisingly little capital. But today's market isn't like that. I think this is a problem that arises as industries become more advanced.
There's a paper I read some time ago arguing that as an industry becomes more advanced, the knowledge and resources required to make a product increase.[1] [1]https://www.nber.org/papers/w27787
And that prediction would have been dead wrong for much of the past 4 decades, except for the post pandemic inflation surge, but that's the exception that proves the rule. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
The Dow, the Dow right now
Is over fifty thou
I don't know why you're laughing
That's what we should be talking abou
The Dow, the Dow right now
S&P is almost seven thou
The American people need to know this,
Need to know, how is the Dow?
You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?
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Nothing leaves your browser my ass.Never believe “nothing leaves your browser” unless it’s a locally saved SPA and the network is unplugged.
Plenty of middle aged and older people are addicted to their screens and spend their lives glued to them.