> As regards nato - again, you seem ignorant.
Please refrain from writing things like this or just don't respond.
> I find it curious that, I, a European, consuming European media, living in a European country and consuming its domestic media, which you very likely don’t, am being lectured, by an American, on how we feel.
You're just one random person though. I'm in Europe often and talk to Europeans all the time. How you as a random person on the Internet feels isn't reflective of how everyone feels. There's nothing "curious" here, nor am I "lecturing" you aside from your mistaken belief that your own social circle is how everyone feels.
> The quiet part isn’t said out loud by anyone but the president who threatens to abandon Nato commitments,
Can you quote a specific article, source, or comment where the President has threatened to abandon NATO commitments?
> US deployments here are minuscule, approximately 2 months worth of Russian casualties.
The US deployments in Europe are actually quite significant. Your framing of them in terms of Russian casualties when Russia just pushes people to front lines is obviously flawed. The deployments over time have lowered because the Soviet Union and Marxist ideology that took root there was defeated by the West, but in today's world the value America can bring to a fight in Europe is logistics and air power. 600+ million Europeans need to do the infantry work and go clear Russians out door-to-door, not Americans.
> The value was always the deterrence. And the value for the US was a gateway to the middle east and further abroad along with highly favorable deals for its military industry.
Those are nice to haves but not required, and the value for Europe is US protection. The framing that typically occurs is how there are all these benefits for America and all the bases are good for us, which is wrong since Europe gains even more in benefits.
Maybe we don't need to have troops deployed all around the world anyway? Let's withdraw from South Korea and Japan. Maybe Germany can stop China from taking over Taiwan. Perhaps France and the UK can partner with Saudi Arabia to stop Iran from building nuclear weapons? Or maybe the US can withdraw from Europe and Europeans can spend another trillion Euros on their military? Sounds good to me if that's what you are advocating for.
> The US has already been nearly useless these past 2 years.
incorrect
> We fund the entire war and you sell the arms.
So? It's not turning out well for Europe right now. Look at the riots and protests. How is Europe going to sit here and pay $70+bn to Ukraine when that's more than Russia's entire military budget?
> I don’t think there is any point continuing a discussion from there.
I do as well, no need to reply from here.