Sam Altman's Case Against Your RAM Is Efficient. That's the Problem
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1. people aren't using (GPU) RAM [1] for just running LLMs (in the local model sense), they are using it for other things... games, system displays, other models (Text-to-Speech, Speech Recognition, etc.);
2. being able to run models locally allows them to be used when the internet is down, use them on private data (e.g. medical records, proprietary company data, etc.), including training on that data;
3. the big AI companies are already storing unused GPUs on shelves waiting for their roll-out in data centres, as they can't build the capacity fast enough.
With point (3) that goes against Sam Altman's argument about utilization. The big companies have the hardware, but aren't utilizing it themselves.
[1] And if the argument extends to RAM in general you have all sorts of applications, especially on developer hardware -- editing and compiling software; running local servers; running CAD and other applications; etc.
A nation that doesn’t care for itself is one incident away from revolt.
[1] https://www.business-standard.com/technology/tech-news/what-...
[2] https://venturebeat.com/infrastructure/5-gpu-utilization-the...
[3] https://venturebeat.com/infrastructure/ai-bubble-update-79-o...
[4] https://www.techradar.com/pro/5-utilization-is-a-math-fail-m...
[5] https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/microsoft-has-ai-... [Nov 2025]
Sources for this would be appreciated.
Anyone choosing between a cloud provider vs local specifically for an LLM has likely noticed this already.
Anyone interpreting this as "Altman wants to take DRAM away from me" or "Altman doesn't understand use case X Y or Z" is just strawmanning.
The most honest interpretation of the quote in the article (if you actually read it) is he says:
1. There's a problem which is the shortage
2. People assume the solution to the problem is just everyone has local inference
3. That won't work because if everyone has local inference there's actually a worse problem because it's less efficient (idle time, partial batch sizes etc) so we'd need even more compute
There's nothing that even remotely suggests he wants to do something nefarious from this quote. If you hate him, find a better reason like the weird cornea scanning cryptocurrency ideas.
How so? It's obviously self-serving.
From a pure efficiency point of view it makes sense to have all our resources pooled and used by whoever needs them at the time. So long as there is always enough to go around, and all the benefits of local computing are kept (though how that works practically if your internet goes offline I don't know) then theoretically, home computers are suboptimal.
But that argument isn't really based on reality. Privacy, offline access, access when you need it, cost... the list goes on. There's many reasons he's wrong, but the core point that it is technically more efficient in the perfect world seems sound.
It's not "sound", because when do we ever have the perfect world? Instead we have a world controlled by self-serving billionaires like Altman. The perfect world is a red herring.
If you're ever tempted to grant the benefit of the doubt to our tech overlords, please read "Careless People" for example.
I find it odd that you're going out of your way to defend an argument as "reasonable" that by your own admission "isn't really based on reality." I think it's actually more charitable to Altman's intelligence to interpret his argument as self-serving than to interpret his argument as somehow just ignorant.
Will that world ever exist? Probably not due to human nature. Still an interesting thought, even if Altman wants to control said compute or not.
Just to be super clear so you understand my comment: I do NOT agree that Altman should have any control over compute and storage. And neither should it be the only way to use compute and storage.
No? Please explain, step by step, how my logic leads to that conclusion.
We obviously need highways, in an imperfect world, regardless of leadership. We don't obviously need to give our RAM to AI vendors. I don't even want to use AI at all, so that would be of no benefit whatsoever to me. And I think that AI is just dumbing down the public. Altman is pretending it's for the public benefit. That's the tall tale told by all the tech overlords. Yesterday John Ternus said "everything we do at Apple is for our users" while crowing about record revenue to stock market analysts. 48% company gross margin!
I don't find issues with your logic from my attempted position of objectivity as a third-party observer.
> Just to be super clear so you understand my comment: I do NOT agree that Altman should have any control over compute and storage. And neither should it be the only way to use compute and storage.
Yet you reply with:
> We don't obviously need to give our RAM to AI vendors.
I don't see the point in continuing this discussion. At least you've proved that you're a human, the LLMs today are better at following a conversation.
What you don't appear to understand is that I was pointing out a disanalogy between the RAM argument and the highways argument, to show that the absurd conclusion you claimed follows from my logic does not actually follow from my logic. When I said, "We don't obviously need to give our RAM to AI vendors," the purpose was not to suggest that you believe we do but rather to contrast with "We obviously need highways."
Let me put it another way: a lot of people think we should build highways, not just Hitler. ;-) In contrast, Sam Altman is the only person who thinks we should dedicate our RAM to data centers. That's why Altman's financial conflict of interest is crucial here. We shouldn't give Altman or Hitler the benefit of the doubt, but we don't even need Hitler to convince people to build highways. Whereas the only reason people are even debating this stupid RAM idea is because Altman suggested it.
You're right that there's no point in continuing this conversation, because you've already violated the HN guidelines and insulted my intelligence, with no justification. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Then you don't understand the point of OP. You're arguing with a straw man.
> you've already violated the HN guidelines and insulted my intelligence
No, your attention span, Make an effort to understand what I'm saying instead of starting a flame-war, also against the guidelines.
But if a blowhard wealthy silicon valley techno-autist does it its just the way of the world. "Don't hate the player, hate the game"
Running all those lines, people don't even use it all that much.
Much more efficient to put everybody into camps, and simply have the people take turns using electrical appliances operating at 100% duty cycle.
Freight delivery speeds need to be brought down too, 35 MPH maximum.
Food? Give me break, get everyone on a Soylent Green diet.
Ol’ Mao would like to have a word with you.
There is clearly high marginal utility of the first n GB of RAM in your computer, but then its go down probably faster than for RAM in OpenAI's datacenter. And the market just solves for the equilibrium.
Maybe frontier lab engineers, including CEOs like Altman, think that "AI is the most important and innovative technology, therefore people should follow our lead to get a better life", or something like that.
Policymakers should listen to experts, but people who build the tech shouldn't try to act like politicians. Technology isn't about making the world as efficient as possible(i don't know what efficiency means and what it's for in the first place), it's there to give people the freedom to be inefficient
If the other use cases are extremely beneficial and extremely high value, surely they can happily pay $1000 for 64 GB of RAM?
If I go check the largest computer shop in my country, it's adding general electronics now, and very few ram, GPU are available.
This is extremely bad. And this asshole says this. It's just infuriating
Now, let's take privacy concerns off the table. OpenAI's complete lack of respect for privacy, authorship, copyright, etc. mean that you simply can't entrust private data to OpenAI. Full stop. Anyone with privacy concerns gets a free pass.
Finally, we're dealing just with people doing LLM computations on data that's not sensitive. Why aren't these people doing things in data centres? There are likely a variety of reasons, but one is likely price. If somebody does a lot of stuff with local models, they've probably found an application where a bigger closed model doesn't offer compelling advantages and the cost, purely in terms of filthy lucre, of running a local model is lower. These are the users Sam Altman can legitimately target. What Altman is arguing is that these people are paying too much.
How should he target them? Become the Steam of compute. Save them money and time. If Altman wants these people's RAM because he can use it more efficiently, he needs to offer them the same services they can get from their own hardware, cheaper, and with less trouble.
I think it's a bit disingenuous to state that his opinion is that we shouldn't have any ram being used for any local purposes.
We are far better off with millions of people running lots of little experiments, than a handful of super large companies running a subset of experiments. We really need to get agentic LLMs onto local machines at a reasonable price to really accelerate.
The likes of qwen3.5-0.8b have been super interesting to me, you have this tiny little model that can run on a CPU that can exhibit agentic behaviours (with a lot of tickling) - in the hands of hobbyists is where I suspect we will see some cool updates.
This is literally one of the world's largest capitalists. The cognitive dissonance is deafening...
the underlying economics are unescapable. when there was a glut of RAM because no profitable uses existed for it manufacturers shoved it into consumer products because "bigger number is good" but it produces very little utility sitting idle in consumer devices.
Hes going to lobby the federal government to confiscate all your RAM, like FDR did with the gold. :|
Dead.
Hands.
Or maybe he should live in a one bedroom apartment.
That would be way more efficient.
"People shouldn't be allowed to bicycle for fun. Only utilitarian bicycles should be allowed. For there's too much energy spent manufacturing mountain bikes, tires, converting ski station into bike parks for the summer. That energy and money should instead be directed towards creating more RAM factories and more datacenters for the AI companies".
Where does such an "efficient" argument ends?
P.S: as a bonus question: does anyone know how to differentiate a paid shill from a sycophant?
I think that's about where the argument ends.
I have seen many explanations of what that was exactly, they are not all agreed on the bad thoughts were, but they are pretty much in agreement that it was a bad thing.
It's like saying 'public transport is more efficient than driving your own car', and the person hearing you say 'you shouldn't own a car, you should use the public transport system I will own.'
They have no credibility as an impartial analyst.
If you use the same competitive basis for the public transport advocate analogy, your complaint seems to be that one of the advocates for public transport is building public transport. Not the only one, just one of many.
There is a high demand overall, it is costing people more. What solution do you propose?
And sure, they ended up being nonbinding letters of intent to purchase, but it caused a massive market shift, and it seemed like an intentional act.
The solution I propose is that everyone stops listening to Sam Altman.
I am pretty sure Sam has already sold the majority of his personal belongings and only rents whatever he needs when he needs it. What a great example for us all.
Company that cautions against the paperclip maximizer already at work building the paperclip-maximizing hardware themselves.
Though I appreciate how this would invalidate the last remaining arguments for the "data centers bring local employment" claim, if the security and construction jobs are automated away as well.
Maybe it will be replaced with a new spin: "Data center? What data center? Oh that one... that's just a wild weed, you can't prove it's one of ours..."
Hey don't talk about Sam like that!
If Sam wants to buy 16GB of 6 year laptop RAM, he can send me a check for $2000.
Me: This might well be the understatement of the century.
SAL "Sand-boxing works to a point. Then I think monitoring........ works to a further point."
Me: REALLY? You think you should MONITOR your system of agents while it does its work? GEE I wish I'd thought of that!