Itch.io adding Generative AI disclosure filtering to few more places on the site
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You don’t have to strive for perfection. Just get rid of the worst examples, and you’ll have a deterrent effect.
I'm sure a lot of people wouldn't care, but you "know" some consumers don't want it. At least give them the choice.
Look at the backlash received when it came out that Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 used AI assets[2]. By all rights, it was a good game, even won GOTY (though later stripped for the AI usage). There are a lot of people that would not have bought it if they knew it used GenAI, and there's a lot of people that still would have.
Bottom line: Consumers deserve the right to choose.
[1]: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-53481253
[2]: https://www.ign.com/articles/indie-game-awards-strips-clair-...
This isn't about feeding the ethical vegan meat. It's about the farm workers growing the vegetables needing to be vegan themselves. If customers wish to limit their buying to only vegan food grown by vegans, that's certainly their right to choose, and those companies are free to label their products as such.
Regarding your "solution", that may well be a good solution. Itch.io could use a similar search filter to only return results that have a `no-gen-ai` label or similar. But unless that sort of label became an actually regulated term, I suspect if (when) the filter effected sales people would start adding it whether it were true or not. Look at how food packaging has all sorts of creative interpretations of "organic" or similar terms.
On that same thought, does the "this contains GMO ingredients" label of foods unfairly impact manufacturers? How hard is it to just responsibly disclose how something is made?
This whole argument is "you know people don't want it, and you don't want to tell people it's there because then they won't buy your thing".
Hence a purity test that can't be passed. Did the dialog seem AI generated, or just stiff? What kind of evidence would be enough? No proof would ever be enough if you don't trust the develop when they say it was placeholder.
> Regarding your "solution"
I am not sure why you feel the need to put scare quotes around this version, but having an "this was made with AI" tag isn't also a "solution". It's literally the same purity test.
> this contains GMO ingredients
I think the comparison to GMOs is an interesting one because that one's a big nothing burger. People just have an irrational fear of GMO because it's not "natural".
It's the same idiocy that leads people to religiously check for nitrites on their cured meat packaging while gladly eating it if it contains celery juice (hint they're using the celery juice for it's natural occurring nitrite).
You run the chances of being perhaps more easily targeted by self-righteous assholes, sacrificing for the common good you hope to also benefit from. If you appreciate that being able to separately browse between AI and non-AI works is useful, especially without particular moral judgement, and recognize this capability as socially facilitated, then the way to cultivate that behavior is to take the leap if you can yourself.
As long as people are on the lookout for AI stuff with their eyes in the red, this won't work. If you invert the mechanism and tell people hey my shit is AI, you take the wind out their sails, and directly disprove that you're some monster trying to trick or hurt them. It's easily avoided, so that narrative doesn't work anymore. Less ground for the villification to work on their part, as you can no longer be the cartoon villian they want to think you are.
Not the first platform with this feature by far either.
It's basically an honor system. The point is exactly to show that you're willing to be (somewhat) vulnerable. You can only demonstrate that you're not misusing people's trust, if there is trust to misuse. As long as AI usage is treated as betrayal, this is what remains. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_system
You don't have some sort of right to put your game in front of other people. Some of those people don't want AI content, and if you try and sneak it in anyway, you've done a massive disrespect to your customers.
Basically, don't be an asshole. That's why
However some of the comments.. are a bit absolutist. And I don't think they are sustainable long term. I absolutely agree that the deluge of slop is a problem.
Really itch is kinda hitting what the mobile markets have been dealing with since long before LLMs, those markets were awash with clones and low quality even outright scammy crap.
Though maybe a bit harder for Itch since their whole shtick is being a low barrier place for people to put their game. Arguably the platform has always had slop, but I would categorize the majority as "honest slop", a person who maybe isn't any good at making games, or doesn't follow through actually finishing their game putting something up there.
anyone old enough to remember Newgrounds and the era of flash knows that loads of flash games were awful. but you would get a more normal Pareto distribution. Ai has lowered the bar so low that ratio becomes skewed. like 1:99 instead of 80:20 with the flood.
Banning AI seems like a non starter, you can make "honest slop" with ai, you can make even good games with it. Self tagging is basically saying "i don't want anyone to play my game". an honest game with AI will get thrown into the pit with the total crap. it's death.
chewing up real people in filters or auto-mod just makes the problem worse. Real people give up on the platform because they were burned, only the AI slop persists.
I don't know how you retain an open and friendly platform that's accepting of honest slop but can stem the tide of genuine slop.